Yeah, cause TCM has absolutely no data backing it up. As apparently neither does Ayurvedic medicine, which is pretty much the birthplace of integrative medicine. Integrative medicine uses natural medicine as a preventative, and western medicine when necessary. Using western medicine as a preventative measure is gross overkill, and only profits the producers of it.

Okay I understand your perspective a little better now.

No more poop talk please.

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I'm happy I got to play a role in helping you feel vicariously superior. My good deed for the day is getting checked off earlier than usual.

I'm glad we understand one another.

Just keep in mind that Frowny hasn't been laid in a while. I've been too busy to help him.

Don't get me wrong, I think holistic medicine is bull****, but I'm more in it for the conflict itself.

Fine, let me elaborate on why you are not too smart in this area.

There is plenty of data proving its ineffectiveness of most elements of traditional Chinese medicine. There is also data showing how effective some of those things are, like surgery, but conventional medicine has since added it to its repertoire. Because we call alternative medicine that works "medicine".

As above, it is largely bull****. The parts that were not became conventional medicine.

Conventional medicine uses natural medicine quite often. The efficacy of these preventative treatments that you describe, assuming that you're referring to the alternative medicine part of the "treatment" (read: scam) are not supported by anything apart from anecdotal evidence and only profits the producers of it.

My earlier statement still stands: I'm super jealous that I haven't been tricked into believing utter nonsense as you have. I wish I could be like you.