When did the concept of death really, truly, sink in?

Trollheart · 06-17-2017, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

How the **** do people deal with the crushing anxiety imposed by the inevitability of death? This **** gives me panic attacks, and sometimes I wonder why I even bother living at all when it will all be over one day. Of course I wouldn't end it, since you can't have sex, party, eat chocolate and go hiking when you're dead, but those things sometimes lose their fun when I know I'll be dead one day, nomsayin'?

How do you know? Maybe you can. Maybe, like, after death you go to this wonderful place where you can eat chocolate but never puke or put on weight, party and **** all you like with no consequences and hike without getting tired. Hell, I want to die now!

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

It makes it easier when you accept there is nothing you can do about it and that it happens to us all. And also death means no more worrying, everything I worry about will be gone

There is no reason for me to think that I will know about it when I can't remember before I was born so I reckon it will be like that.

The thing that I find most frightening is being terminally ill. Or being beheaded by ISIS or a drug cartel in Mexico. Them last few seconds before the knife starts slicing <<<<<<<<

Nah, you just want to meet Prince.

Seriously though, bolded: yes. A hundred times yes. Let me die in my sleep or get hit by a number 42C rather than a slow, painful, horrible death like that. If you believe you'll die easily and peacefully I think it's easier to accept. If you're in a burning building, for instance, chances are you'll die, but you'll likely die in horrible pain and terror. This is the difference.

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Eh. Like MLM said, there was a time before you were born, and in that time were you sad or in pain? Death is simply going back to that time, from wence the cosmos' womb you left, and your mother's womb entered. You treat death like it's a stranger, some intruder that wants to steal everything that you have. But you've met it before, and fared none the worse for the meeting. It's the soil from which you grew. Meet it again as a friend, not an enemy. You owe it that much.

If that's original, then

Very poetic.

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Oh please, you're not interesting enough to get killed by somebody. If that mindset is what you have to tell yourself to make your impending death by autoerotic asphyxiation seem like anything other than the last gasps of a man who was too afraid of death to live, then so be it.

Plus they'd either have to get him out of bed or murder him in bed, or hope to be able to get him in the one hour he rises out of that pit.

OccultHawk · 06-17-2017, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

I like how you didn't deny the autoerotic asphyxiation part, though.

No. The Geto Boys' lyrics even amplify that claim. The asphyxiation is more likely to be sleep vomit but, close enough. I also doubt I'll be murdered but there are people who want to kill me.

Oriphiel · 06-17-2017, 09:53 AM

I think you need to lay off the Joy Division for awhile.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

If that's original, then

Very poetic.

Yeah, it's an ori-ginal.

Trollheart · 06-17-2017, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

I think you need to lay off the Joy Division for awhile.

Yeah, it's an ori-ginal.

Even better.
Seriously, excellent piece of writing.

DwnWthVwls · 06-17-2017, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

I think you need to lay off the Joy Division for awhile.

Yeah, it's an ori-ginal.

You're an ori-ginal canal.

djchameleon · 06-17-2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

How the **** do people deal with the crushing anxiety imposed by the inevitability of death? This **** gives me panic attacks, and sometimes I wonder why I even bother living at all when it will all be over one day. Of course I wouldn't end it, since you can't have sex, party, eat chocolate and go hiking when you're dead, but those things sometimes lose their fun when I know I'll be dead one day, nomsayin'?

They only lose their fun if you keep living in the future instead of the present. You are preoccupied about what will happen while missing out on the experiences in the here and now. Cliche I know but still true.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

My point is:

Meant to be used up? That sounds like a religious argument. There is no intrinsic purpose to "resources", or existence as far as we can tell.

So maybe its not a weak argument?

Being afraid of overpopulation is a weak argument. I don't get how you don't see that resources aren't meant to be consumed. What is so religious about that? You consume resources every single day. You would be dead if you didn't.

OccultHawk · 06-17-2017, 12:48 PM

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Being afraid of overpopulation is a weak argument. I don't get how you don't see that resources aren't meant to be consumed. What is so religious about that? You consume resources every single day. You would be dead if you didn't.

If we continue to consume renewable resources faster than they can replenish themselves our whole species could go Easter Island. Since we know that, there's a difficult divide created between what we need to do individually and collectively to survive. If the collective dies completely it's a greater genetic loss to the individual than even a personal death. We're not dealing with that very well as a species.

**Frownland** · 06-17-2017, 12:49 PM

Lmfao DJ

You should read your own posts man.

Chula Vista · 06-17-2017, 02:05 PM

Ever flown over the USA? Or other parts of the world? There's so much un-used space. For some reason we've adapted to congregating lots of people into very small areas.

If we continue to subsidize farmers, ranchers, clean energy, international trade, etc., there's more than enough resources for everyone. On a side note, one of the striking things I learned traveling to China a number of times, is that because of their population issues they basically will eat ANYTHING that's edible and provides sustenance.

We're kinda spoiled rotten here in the US and in Europe. But if we had to we'd adapt just like the far east has.

The Batlord · 06-17-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Ever flown over the USA? Or other parts of the world? There's so much un-used space. For some reason we've adapted to congregating lots of people into very small areas.

If we continue to subsidize farmers, ranchers, clean energy, international trade, etc., there's more than enough resources for everyone. On a side note, one of the striking things I learned traveling to China a number of times, is that because of their population issues they basically will eat ANYTHING that's edible and provides sustenance.

We're kinda spoiled rotten here in the US and in Europe. But if we had to we'd adapt just the far east has.

Yeah I'd be terrified to eat any home cooked meals in China.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Ever flown over the USA? Or other parts of the world? There's so much un-used space. For some reason we've adapted to congregating lots of people into very small areas. If we continue to subsidize farmers, ranchers, clean energy, international trade, etc., there's more than enough resources for everyone. On a side note, one of the striking things I learned traveling to China a number of times, is that because of their population issues they basically will eat ANYTHING that's edible and provides sustenance. We're kinda spoiled rotten here in the US and in Europe. But if we had to we'd adapt just like the far east has. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.” Last edited by Chula Vista; 06-17-2017 at 02:31 PM.