Veganism (tracks, quote, Ching)

adidasss · 08-11-2005, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Snickers

Right you are, but neither was the 10 page feud in my Veganism thread.
Tell her what she's won!

Okay, now let me take what you said after this apart, piece by piece.

Judge what, how to annihilate every species on the planet?
What exactly makes man so different from other animals?
The planet needs diversity to function.
And secondly, if you're so "pro-mankind" then wouldn't you recognize the fact that if man kills off everything so that only his food and his food's food exist, the smallest thing could destroy all mankind.
And seriously...being self-aware isn't that great....man's not going to be the only self-aware being ever on this planet.
If man didn't destroy other species but lived WITH them, then they too would evolve over time and become as self-aware as humans.
Gorilla, dolphins, and chimpanzees are already about to become self-aware and act as "individuals".

what a load of poppycock...
meat is good, you said something about exterminating all the animals on this plantet....the animals we eat we also grow so we're not exterminating anything....if you wanna save the planet i would suggest you stop using oil-based products and paper, stop driving or using cars and aeroplanes and maybe start up a petition for your government to sign the Kyoto treaty......not really possible now is it...

right-track · 08-11-2005, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track

An open question to all vegans/vegetarians (purely hyperthetical);

You have in your possession the last chicken on earth and you have no other means of obtaining any other food.

Do you;
a) kill the chicken and eat it?
or,
b) starve to death?

Snickers would you care to answer this??
No wimping out like the others!

Trauma · 08-11-2005, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track

An open question to all vegans/vegetarians (purely hyperthetical);

You have in your possession the last chicken on earth and you have no other means of obtaining any other food.

Do you;
a) kill the chicken and eat it?
or,
b) starve to death

Starve to death.
If I had no other means of obtaining any other food I'd just starve a couple days after eating the chicken.
And I wouldn't want to take someone with me.

Jesus Right-track I was doing the laundry lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhishFood

Rant #2.
Why fight Milk and Eggs? Eggs that we buy are unfertilized, so they couldn't have become a chicken, and milk.... I could find troubles with the milk industry, but it's pretty much the nicest industry for animals to be in.

If getting artificially fertilized year round so that you produce more milk constantly and are fed chemicals to produce more milk year round while at the same time your newborns are taken away and either killed or made milk producers until they are slaughtered is a good job then shoot me.

PhishFood · 08-11-2005, 04:43 PM

Stopping using paper is bull, but i argee with everything else you said adidasss, Paper is made from squat fast growing trees that are farmed, and if they were left to grow, die and rot in forests alot of forest land would be destroied...

PhishFood · 08-11-2005, 04:46 PM

they only get artifically fertilized once. and it's not like every dairy farmer is pumping their cows full of chemicals.

adidasss · 08-11-2005, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhishFood

Stopping using paper is bull, but i argee with everything else you said adidasss, Paper is made from squat fast growing trees that are farmed, and if they were left to grow, die and rot in forests alot of forest land would be destroied...

you're sorta right ( except for the destroying forest land by leaving it alone, that doesn't make any sense ), i should have said stop buying or using furniture....

adidasss · 08-11-2005, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhishFood

they only get artifically fertilized once. and it's not like every dairy farmer is pumping their cows full of chemicals.

in america and other " super developed" countries yes they are, america is quite famous for producing unhealthy food....

Trauma · 08-11-2005, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

what a load of poppycock...
meat is good, you said something about exterminating all the animals on this plantet....the animals we eat we also grow so we're not exterminating anything....if you wanna save the planet i would suggest you stop using oil-based products and paper, stop driving or using cars and aeroplanes and maybe start up a petition for your government to sign the Kyoto treaty......not really possible now is it...

You said I was preaching a load of poppycock when you clearly misread.
I said that man will eventually exterminate every other animal that he doesn't eat so that there is only him, his food, and his food's food.
Jesus, do you think I don't know that farmers breed billions of hens so they can just kill them??
If you want to bring that up I suggest you take a look at the endangered species list and the rain forest.
More species are becoming extinct now than ever.
And I would like a Utopia Adidas but that clearly won't happen so why bother with that?

adidasss · 08-11-2005, 05:02 PM

sorry if i misread, i just don't think you should say that you're becoming vegan because you want to help the animals, just say you're doing it because you don't like how animals are treated and you prefer not to be a part of it....

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-11-2005, 05:03 PM

I don`t have a problem with vegans or vegetarians

Just the ones that turn it into a crusade

08-11-2005, 04:43 PM	#214 (permalink)
PhishFood Bottom-Feeder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The American Dreamscape Posts: 316	Stopping using paper is bull, but i argee with everything else you said adidasss, Paper is made from squat fast growing trees that are farmed, and if they were left to grow, die and rot in forests alot of forest land would be destroied... __________________ Winos don't march

08-11-2005, 04:46 PM	#215 (permalink)
PhishFood Bottom-Feeder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The American Dreamscape Posts: 316	they only get artifically fertilized once. and it's not like every dairy farmer is pumping their cows full of chemicals. __________________ Winos don't march

08-11-2005, 05:02 PM	#219 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	sorry if i misread, i just don't think you should say that you're becoming vegan because you want to help the animals, just say you're doing it because you don't like how animals are treated and you prefer not to be a part of it.... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

08-11-2005, 05:03 PM	#220 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I don`t have a problem with vegans or vegetarians Just the ones that turn it into a crusade __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.