Veganism (quote)

Trauma · 08-13-2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

Veganism is a cry for attention

I don't agree with that.
I'm not crying for attention, I just don't support what is done to animals.
Seriously, I don't throw tantrums, or "cut", or "cry", or even make scenes and show everybody.

Maybe for some people it's a cry for attention, but definitely not for myself.

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Originally Posted by right-track

The question I asked earlier in this thread was designed to force the vegan/veggies into a moral choice between eating meat or certain death.
I admit the question could have been put better.
What I should have included was that by eating the meat your survival would have been ensured and I suspect the fact that it was'nt, was used skillfully, by some, as a loophole to avoid answering the question (you slippery non meat eaters you).

So come on...what's it to be?
Would you rather starve to death than eat meat?

Ladyluckrules...you chose b). Good for you I admire your principles

Well then I would not eat the chicken.
Because if I was stranded and my only company was the chicken...
We would become friends.
And I do not eat my friends.

SATCHMO · 08-13-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks

Veganism is a cry for attention

That's the dumbest thing iv'e ever heard. If that's true, any lifestyle decision can be a cry for attention. If you flaunt it and make it everybody's business, sure, I suppose it could be, but not everyone who is a vegan is a self-righteous trendy prick.

shandapanda · 08-13-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by .angie.

But don't you feel bad for the animals? How would you feel if you were taken to a strange place, then stunned, the someone came and slit your throat so all the blood drains. Then chopped into tiny pieces and eaten?

well that's a very strange perception you have of africa, but i'm used to it because not many people really know what africa is like even some that have lived there, but that's a different story. we don't really kill animals more brutally than animals kill each other, i mean i've never seeen anyone stun a cow you just shoot it to kill! considering the way animals kill each other, they get off pretty lightly....in my opinion from what i've experienced

.angie. · 08-13-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

An open question to all vegans/vegetarians (purely hyperthetical);

You have in your possession the last chicken on earth and you have no other means of obtaining any other food.

Do you;
a) kill the chicken and eat it?
or,
b) starve to death?

The chicken's only going to keep you alive a few weeks longer, what's the point of killing an innocent animal for that short period of time? Sure, the chicken's going to die on it's own, but I don't want anything to do with it's death.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-13-2005, 07:53 PM

But wouldn`t it be more cruel to make it die of starvation over a few weeks than to wring it`s neck & kill it before it knew what was happening in a couple of seconds?

You take an animal thats dying to a vet they won`t stick it in a cage till it dies , they`ll put it out of it`s misery.

.angie. · 08-13-2005, 07:55 PM

Obviously we have different opinions on this, so I shall just leave it at that. I can see your point. But I couldn't bring myself to killing it.

SATCHMO · 08-13-2005, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by right-track

An open question to all vegans/vegetarians (purely hyperthetical);

You have in your possession the last chicken on earth and you have no other means of obtaining any other food.

Do you;
a) kill the chicken and eat it?
or,
b) starve to death?

As someone who has been a vegan I would say that's a tricky question to answer. Most people who have been vegan/vegetarian for a long period of time don't have digestive systems that are properly acclimated to eating flesh and often end up getting very sick if they try to.
I think eating meat out of necessity for survival kinda' circumvents the ethics that support a vegan lifestyle. The point is that we live in a gluttonous and wasteful society where ther majority of us consume much more food in general than what is necessary for survival. One of the reasons vegans don't eat animals or their by-products is because its not necessary to deystroy the lives of other living creatures in order to sustain our own. If put into a situation where eating meat becomes necessary for survival then it would be quite understandable that some vegans/vegetarians might choose to do so.

Trauma · 08-13-2005, 10:12 PM

I concur.

tdoc210 · 08-14-2005, 01:44 PM

no i just cant eat chickens cause their so happy and feathery

.angie. · 08-15-2005, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Snickers

Well then I would not eat the chicken.
Because if I was stranded and my only company was the chicken...
We would become friends.
And I do not eat my friends.

*teehee* That's basically what I said.

08-13-2005, 07:53 PM	#255 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	But wouldn`t it be more cruel to make it die of starvation over a few weeks than to wring it`s neck & kill it before it knew what was happening in a couple of seconds? You take an animal thats dying to a vet they won`t stick it in a cage till it dies , they`ll put it out of it`s misery. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-13-2005, 07:55 PM	#256 (permalink)
.angie. contrast&compare. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 661	Obviously we have different opinions on this, so I shall just leave it at that. I can see your point. But I couldn't bring myself to killing it. __________________ Jesus Christ, I'm alone again, so what did you do those three days you were dead?

08-13-2005, 10:12 PM	#258 (permalink)
Trauma snickers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: detroit Posts: 2,194	I concur. __________________ A mi no me importa nada Para mi la vida es un sueño

08-14-2005, 01:44 PM	#259 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	no i just cant eat chickens cause their so happy and feathery __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.