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The Batlord · 09-25-2019, 08:07 AM

DwnWthVwls · 09-25-2019, 08:28 AM

Welcome back, bitch.

The Batlord · 09-25-2019, 03:50 PM

Unpopular opinion: vegans can't be foodies. Foodies are supposed to be food explorers. Vegans actively avoid like half of all food.

~~jwb~~ · 09-25-2019, 04:39 PM

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Let me try once more to make my idea clear. Deciding to bring another human being into this world is not something that anyone has the right to do. And if you decide to do it you owe that person something and have no right to demand any kind of gratitude for it because they did not consent. You brought that person into the world for your own reasons that have nothing to do with them.

And if you agree to this world that considers it right and correct for someone else to bring someone else into this world then you owe that second person something as well and have no right to demand any effort from them because they did not consent to be here but you did consent to their being forced to be here and you did so for your own reasons that have nothing to do with them.

If you consider it legitimate for people to have children then you owe those children something more than just an opportunity to be happy. You owe them your best shot at making them happy.

TFW you're too left wing for OH.

but following the logic money can't make them happy, what exactly do we owe them?

Even if you have a kid... You can try to teach them how to live, you can try to equip them to make themselves happy. But you can never guarantee it.

Especially since a truly functional and happy adult probably also needs to be self sufficient. If they are perpetually dependant on someone else for a decent existence they are no more than just human pets.

And pet ownership is immoral.

The Batlord · 09-25-2019, 04:51 PM

Hence...

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Deciding to bring another human being into this world is not something that anyone has the right to do.

~~jwb~~ · 09-25-2019, 04:56 PM

Yeh I disagree. I'm familiar with the anti natalist argument I just never found it compelling. The idea of a universe with no life sounds so dreary and meaningless to me and yet to them that is the ideal world. I'm glad to be alive.

The Batlord · 09-25-2019, 05:02 PM

Would you say that a suicidal paranoid schizophrenic would have cause to be angry with their parents simply for having given birth to them?

**Frownland** · 09-25-2019, 05:06 PM

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Would you say that a suicidal paranoid schizophrenic would have cause to be angry with their parents simply for having given birth to them?

~~jwb~~ · 09-25-2019, 05:07 PM

Nah I think their parents were just doing what organisms do. What all organisms are designed to do. So if they were being fair about it they would understand their parents weren't omniscient creators but simple animals. And if they really wanted to die, well I'm sure they could arrange to make that happen.

The Batlord · 09-25-2019, 05:09 PM

Could they be bitter at having parents who were such basic animals that they couldn't recognize their programming for what it was?

09-25-2019, 04:56 PM	#836 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Yeh I disagree. I'm familiar with the anti natalist argument I just never found it compelling. The idea of a universe with no life sounds so dreary and meaningless to me and yet to them that is the ideal world. I'm glad to be alive.

09-25-2019, 05:07 PM	#839 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Nah I think their parents were just doing what organisms do. What all organisms are designed to do. So if they were being fair about it they would understand their parents weren't omniscient creators but simple animals. And if they really wanted to die, well I'm sure they could arrange to make that happen.