Unpopular Movie Opinions.

jackhammer · 07-01-2011, 07:11 PM

We have a thread in the music area where we can vent spleen about so called classic albums or popular artists not to our liking so let's have a movie version.

Here you can diss the movies that every man and his dog swears by but in the cold light of day knows that they are over rated, bloated and lacking in serious re-watchabilty.

I will start.

It is far too long. The dubbing is awful at times (but this is OK as it's a so called American film but in every other genre bad dubbing is a sign of a poorly produced film) and I am still trying to figure out what the film is trying to say.

We have people on the path of redemption and people just along for the ride. Sure the soundtrack is superb and highly original. Sure the use of camera angles is superb but I don't care for any of the characters. The plot suffers badly with the latest cut. Eastwood looks awesome but has barely found his acting range here and 'the ugly' Eli Wallach character is one dimensional and a very underwritten role.

Controversial choosing a film like this? Who cares? Sacred cows all carry crap on their hind quarters and not everyone can ignore the stains.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-01-2011, 07:22 PM

The only things movies have going for them is budget.

I'd much rather have the slow build & depth of a TV serial or series or a book than watch a movie of something.

jackhammer · 07-01-2011, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

The only things movies have going for them is budget.

I'd much rather have the slow build & depth of a TV serial or series or a book than watch a movie of something.

Some of the best British movies had tiny budgets and said more in 90 mins than 6 hours of television:

Gregory's Girl
Get Carter
Performance
Heartlands
Colin
Brighton Rock
10 Rillington Place
Lamb
Hold Back The Night
Scum (cinema version)
Shooters
Dead Man's Cards
A Sense Of Freedom

are just a few films that cost far less than TV series and hold up well.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-01-2011, 07:38 PM

But then you also have the other side of the coin.
Like Band Of Brothers was made using cast offs from Saving Private Ryan. and Band Of Brothers was infinitely better than that movie.

Plus the original Alien movie kept Doctor Who in spaceship sets for years afterwards

captaincaptain · 07-01-2011, 07:50 PM

Fight Club is very predictable and tedious. It was far from bad, I just expected more. I guess another unpopular opinion would be that Fight Club or The Social Network are not Fincher's best work. That goes to Zodiac.

Howard the Duck · 07-01-2011, 08:17 PM

monochrome silent movies are much better than modern movies

a picture speaks a thousand words, as they say - the German Expressionist movies are like frames of several thousand moving paintings

and it's much harder to create something in B&W look good than colour, so it's definitely an art

djchameleon · 07-02-2011, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I'd much rather have the slow build & depth of a TV serial or series or a book than watch a movie of something.

Yeah, you are a bit more lucky across the pond but in the states, Network Execs don't have time to care about a storyline/fanbase slowly building. If the show isn't bringing in ad revenue they don't care how good it has the potential to be they will axe that baby in a heartbeat.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-02-2011, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Yeah, you are a bit more lucky across the pond but in the states, Network Execs don't have time to care about a storyline/fanbase slowly building. If the show isn't bringing in ad revenue they don't care how good it has the potential to be they will axe that baby in a heartbeat.

The downside of that is most British serials & series only have 6 episodes a year.
Only an exclusive few that they know will sell abroad will get 12/13 episodes and that list is very small. Off the top of my head the only two I can think of that do are Doctor Who & Shameless.
Most American serials get at least over 20 episodes a series, so even if they are cancelled they still have more time to get over than most British serials.

captaincaptain · 07-02-2011, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djchameleon

Yeah, you are a bit more lucky across the pond but in the states, Network Execs don't have time to care about a storyline/fanbase slowly building. If the show isn't bringing in ad revenue they don't care how good it has the potential to be they will axe that baby in a heartbeat.

I think major networks are giving new show a better chance to survive in the past few years. Mainly because cable networks have really been raising the bar on quality shows. I find myself watching way more television on cable than network television.

Dr.Seussicide · 07-02-2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

But then you also have the other side of the coin.
Like Band Of Brothers was made using cast offs from Saving Private Ryan. and Band Of Brothers was infinitely better than that movie.

Plus the original Alien movie kept Doctor Who in spaceship sets for years afterwards

Do you see what just happened here? JH gave 13 examples to fortify his argument, you gave one. Then some sort of joke that wasn't very good.

Movies are magical things, if done well. You can walk out of a 2hr movie feeling inspired, courageous, awe-struck, light-headed, speechless. Movie magic is something special, an unparalleled feeling at that. Movies are amazing. I don't think I'd ever downplay movies by saying "all they have going for them is budget". Definitely not a fair statement, and a bit crude to say the least.

07-01-2011, 07:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Unpopular Movie Opinions. We have a thread in the music area where we can vent spleen about so called classic albums or popular artists not to our liking so let's have a movie version. Here you can diss the movies that every man and his dog swears by but in the cold light of day knows that they are over rated, bloated and lacking in serious re-watchabilty. I will start. It is far too long. The dubbing is awful at times (but this is OK as it's a so called American film but in every other genre bad dubbing is a sign of a poorly produced film) and I am still trying to figure out what the film is trying to say. We have people on the path of redemption and people just along for the ride. Sure the soundtrack is superb and highly original. Sure the use of camera angles is superb but I don't care for any of the characters. The plot suffers badly with the latest cut. Eastwood looks awesome but has barely found his acting range here and 'the ugly' Eli Wallach character is one dimensional and a very underwritten role. Controversial choosing a film like this? Who cares? Sacred cows all carry crap on their hind quarters and not everyone can ignore the stains. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

07-01-2011, 07:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	The only things movies have going for them is budget. I'd much rather have the slow build & depth of a TV serial or series or a book than watch a movie of something. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

07-01-2011, 07:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	But then you also have the other side of the coin. Like Band Of Brothers was made using cast offs from Saving Private Ryan. and Band Of Brothers was infinitely better than that movie. Plus the original Alien movie kept Doctor Who in spaceship sets for years afterwards __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

07-01-2011, 07:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
captaincaptain I Am Become Death Metal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stankonia Posts: 695	Fight Club is very predictable and tedious. It was far from bad, I just expected more. I guess another unpopular opinion would be that Fight Club or The Social Network are not Fincher's best work. That goes to Zodiac. __________________ LAST.FM RYM