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Paedantic Basterd 11-12-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1893305)
Yeah. What an *******.

For now on I think every sexual interaction should have to be approved by an online consensus.

Well, the point is that when you hold power over another person and you ask them to do something, it's coercive because they may be afraid of what you'll do if they say no.

I mean, I tend to think that the Louis CK example is less egregious than some others we've heard this week, but that doesn't make it an okay behaviour. It's good that we're shedding some light on how subtle sexual harassment can really be, but I don't think we should burn Louis CK to death either.

OccultHawk 11-12-2017 01:45 PM

Capitalism puts everyone on a power continuum. As unlikely as it is that we’re soon to dismantle capitalism, sex is even more entrenched. This is another of many historical rounds of people being afraid of sex.

Adult and consensual.

Should it be illegal for a person to suck dick for favors? What if the dicksucker wants the favor and has decided to suck a dick? It falls back on the question if almost all sex is prostitution inside a capitalist paradigm. It is. It’s better to use a simple rubric - consenting adults - than to get all into the nuances of other people’s sexuality.

OccultHawk 11-12-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1893318)
it's not hard to understand that no young woman was dying to see Louis penis

the behavior sounds scuzzy

Scuzzy is such a puritanical word.

And if you don’t want to see someone’s dick, decline when they ask. Unless the trade off is worth it to you. I’d watch him jack off if I could get something out of it. Which is basically the same as saying I would be afraid to say no. Just two ways to phrase it. Fear of some kind of ruin dictates our every move under capitalism. Hair style. Words we use. Dicks we suck and don’t suck. All of it.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 11-12-2017 01:58 PM

so if i say suck my dick or you’re not getting the job and you suck my dick, that’s okay in your eyes?

btw that isn’t the scuzziest part of the Louis story either imo, the fact that women heard him masturbating over the phone during regular conversations is way grosser. i said this in the news thread already, but i don’t think Louis is a bad person, i think he clearly has some personal issues he needs to work on immediately for the sake of his children and those around him.

i’m way more bothered by the whole Brand New thing coming out now.

Paedantic Basterd 11-12-2017 01:59 PM

Okay, so it's cool if your boss asks you to look at his dick, then? Got it.

OccultHawk 11-12-2017 02:10 PM

My argument is that it’s ok by default unless you object to capitalism.

I’m opposed the existence of capitalism because it reduces everything we do to some kind of exploitation.

To everyone who accepts capitalism this is what you’re accepting.

People want to pick out all these problems but they’re all intrinsic to a power structure they refuse to question.

OccultHawk 11-12-2017 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1893340)
even those that aren't anarcho commune space utopians can recognize sexual harassment believe it or not

How would you know? You’re pure neoliberalism.

The Batlord 11-12-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1893359)
wouldn't I be just the person to ask if I were "pure neoliberal"

I'm sure Hillary Clinton would say the same thing.

Trollheart 11-12-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paedantic Basterd (Post 1893321)
Okay, so it's cool if your boss asks you to look at his dick, then? Got it.

If Dick is his son, then yeah I guess.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1893326)
My argument is that it’s ok by default unless you object to capitalism.

I’m opposed the existence of capitalism because it reduces everything we do to some kind of exploitation.

To everyone who accepts capitalism this is what you’re accepting.

People want to pick out all these problems but they’re all intrinsic to a power structure they refuse to question.

Hmm. Seems like you're kind of ignoring the problem Occult, and just wailing "Capitalism is bad! Capitalism is to blame!" ....
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1893375)
I'm sure Hillary Clinton would say the same thing.

You're on a real Hilary kick tonight, aint'cha?

OccultHawk 11-12-2017 03:12 PM

What’s the problem?


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