More gymnastics in music = more goodness. Gotcha.

I was hoppin around and stuff when I made this: https://queensofshiva.bandcamp.com/track/release

I guess you just enjoy music differently from most humans.

The key difference is that sports are incredibly in your face. If the team in your area wins a game you damn well better be excited about it or you aren't a real member of society. That tends to be a bit of a turnoff for people who find sports boring.

Dude. Philly is on another level about it. It’s the most vitriolic sports culture in the states.

Obviously the south is college football crazy but the codes of conduct are very different. Veteran southern college fans take pride in respecting their rivals and avoiding fights and profanity. I’m not saying the south is completely genteel but Philly has nasty crazy pro-sports fans.

The only time you'll get that here is when Ireland are in a major tournament (not often) like the World Cup or European Championships or the Six Nations. Even then, if you're not into it people will just accept it. You just give a cursory COYBIG and everyone's happy. Flags do get hung out, but nobody's gonna lynch you if you don't do that. Of course, don't dare hang a Union Jack out if you happen to be English living in Ireland! :laughing:

My wife went to a big football school down south and it's even worse down there in terms of the expectation that everybody has to be into it.

Coybig? Is that one of Dr. Frink's exclamations?

Come
On
Ye
Boys
In
Green

Ah, so it's a military thing.

Yep.
Just pretend you care even if you don't. You don't even have to know who the team are playing, just say come on the lads and everyone's happy. And if they lose, bitch about the other team (or the Irish team, either works, but if you go that route you need to know a little about them obviously).

I'll pass.

Oh yeah. That’s different. Where the town has one high school that won state before? That’s gonna be like not going to church. Plus, if you’re a student and don’t support the team then for real **** you. That should be considered unacceptable.

And same with college.

But dude, Penn State is definitely the same.

Well, this really reinforces my original point.

Those fans seem really cool. The opposition fans were being treated really well.

Good on ya - Ireland

the craic was ninety

When I lived in Wisconsin it was made very clear to me very quickly i had to support the Packers if i don't wanna have any problems.

I went to the games but I brought my Walkman.

You're not Irish so it doesn't apply to you. I was just illustrating a point, not asking you to participate.
Irish fans: best in the world.
True story: fans arrived in Paris I think it was. Loud, happy, bit rowdy but nothing bad. Came across this woman with a flat tyre. Lads all pile out, change the tire and off they go. Welcome from Ireland. That's the way to make your mark when you're on tour.

I don't think there have ever been any instances of Irish fans getting in trouble, getting arrested, anything like that. Nearest thing to anything controversial was one idiot who fell over a plant on national TV. Made him a minor star.

People love the Irish. I remember when my ma was making her first/only/last trip across Europe a short while before she passed away, and she said everyone who met them said "English?" But when she, Karen and my aunt shook their heads and said "Irish" everyone perked up. "OH Irish! Welcome!"

Well I did go to Boston once when I was a kid, surely that counts.

Doubt it, unless you have Irish ancestry. Do you have Irish ancestry?

Idk, probably.

I think there was trouble at Euro 88 involving Ireland, they were playing England though. Been loads involving Celtic fans as well, OK not the ROI national team but they seem to think they're Irish.

The ROI supporters are OK.

Nobody likes us and we don't care :cool:

But I understand it. 70s, 80s and 90s they did not behave well in Europe. Hooliganism, the English disease. You no doubt remember Landsdowne Road in 1995 TH. France 98 was a real turning point and the fan base changed. Used to be shaven heads and Aquascutum, now it's quiffs and knight costumes. They are a bit better now, but occasionally you still see violence and once you have that reputation its hard to get rid of.

Ireland v England has always been a flashpoint. And yes I remember Lansdowne; saw it on the telly. Disgraceful.

I think usually the Celtic thing is when they play Rangers is it not? The Old Firm Clash (literally) and that's all about the old chestnut, Protestants v Catholics. I'm not familiar with the antics of Celtic supporters, but yeah, I was talking about those supporting the national Irish team.
Best in the world, mate. :)


Yeah in fairness it's all about the Russkies now. Mind you, when you have the goddamn government supporting their behaviour, what can you expect?

Fair enough I can understand that if you're not interested, but teams are a big part of the local community so it's understandable. I just saw the parade in Wolverhampton today, it looked great, it can lift the whole city.

Not just Rangers, for example they've booed and chanted through minutes silences when not playing Rangers before, and once threw so many bananas on the pitch at a black player the game actually had to be stopped to clear all the fruit off.

Yeah the Old Firm is rooted in religious bigotry but not so much now imo, any sectarian policy doesn't exist at Rangers any more, half their players are Catholics. It is more to do with identity (British or Irish) and politics, Rangers being the pro British club of the establishment and monarchy, Celtic being the 'rebel' club founded for Irish immigrants. Lots of things overlapping in it all, especially since the referendum and Rangers financial trouble, its quite interesting I think.

The ROI were good at the Euros, as were the Welsh and the NI supporters. England not so much :D

Still can't believe this happened tbh.

How is it understandable? The band The Roots are big hometown heroes in the city I live in, but nobody expects every single resident to be a fan of them, watch their concerts on TV, keep abreast on the news about them, and attend parades held in their honor.

There's no question that the old rivalry between Ireland and England is always going to be hard to get rid of. I mean, even now, people (me included) resisted the idea of your queen coming here. I mean, **** her: what has she to do with us? She's a redundant relic of a state oppression system that all but tried to force the Irish into annihilation, but of course all that's forgotten about now. :D Still hate the bitch, sorry if that's crossing the line with you.

But rivalries aside, I'm talking about the general behaviour of fans, and even were we in the WC this year and our guys met your guys, I'm going to lay good money that if there was any trouble it would have been started by your lads. They have improved, undoubtedly, but the Irish fans never had to. They were always great. Well, as long as I've been following footy, which is from Italia 90 or so.
:shycouch:

Nordies are of course a different matter, but they have their own fans. If they ever make it to a world or European championship! :laughing:

Footy is the worst slang for a sport by a large margin. Why do you idiots say it?

Cos **** off, that's why. :)
Footy. Footy footy footy. Foot off. :)

I'm going to start calling boxing "fisty" from now on.

People may get the wrong idea...

Was thinking along the exact same lines.... :D

Always makes me laugh when commentators say about a saved goal, "Oh the keeper fisted that one away!" :rofl:

That, gentlemen, was the joke.

I'm saying its understandable the whole town apart from a handful of non sport guys would be excited about team success. I don't see how a music artist is similar tbh they don't really represent the city in the same way.

It's cool I don't care about the monarchy. Don't have strong feelings either way, I can see some of its benefits as well as its faults.

It would, not denying it. But a lot of people just turn up because traveling with England has a certain appeal to it for people not too concerned with the game, and England is a much bigger nation than Ireland so more troublemakers are going to go. Other European nations don't have the same culture of traveling that we do as well. It just attracts a lot of the wrong types.

We know.
I know what you mean. When Ireland qualify, or have a chance of doing so, everyone from babies to grannies, who would have zero interest in footy (footy footy FOOTY!) or even rugby get all excited and swept up in the occasion. It's always a good thing; brings the whole community together. Nothing like walking down streets seeing flags hanging out of windows, people chanting, everyone dressed in green, cars honking etc. Makes you forget your troubles - till we get knocked out at the preliminary stages of course! :D

Seriously, and I'm not being a dick, what benefits? I don't see any but of course I'm Irish so you know. But what benefits do you see England gets in retaining an outdated system that almost no other country still uses?

Good point. And you always have the likes of Combat-13.

What do you mean? Sports teams are typically filled with players who aren't from the city they play for, owned by people who may or may not be from the city in question, and the team itself may, at the drop of a hat, pack up and relocate to a different city. How does that represent a city more than a band comprised of individuals from that city who also got their start as a band in that city?

Give this man a cookie.