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Old 07-29-2018, 03:28 PM   #161 (permalink)
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How am I an English nationalist Charles?
The amount of British flag **** and other British nonsense you post is about (thought not quite) on the level of Americans who support Toby Keith with his American flag guitar and talking about our military putting a boot up your ass. You're the kind of guy who if England went to war you'd support it without having to know who you were fighting or why. Maybe you didn't support the Iraq War but you'd have to be pretty ****ing stupid to support an American imperialist war when you weren't an American so that really doesn't count.
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Old 07-29-2018, 03:33 PM   #162 (permalink)
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The amount of British flag **** and other British nonsense you post is about (thought not quite) on the level of Americans who support Toby Keith with his American flag guitar and talking about our military putting a boot up your ass. You're the kind of guy who if England went to war you'd support it without having to know who you were fighting or why. Maybe you didn't support the Iraq War but you'd have to be pretty ****ing stupid to support an American imperialist war when you weren't an American so that really doesn't count.
England isn't Britain.

Also you are wrong.
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Old 07-29-2018, 03:36 PM   #163 (permalink)
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England isn't Britain.
You can go with the stream and agree with that use of the word or you can argue against it and be sort of right but also just talk past most people as a result.
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Old 07-29-2018, 03:46 PM   #164 (permalink)
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England isn't Britain.

Also you are wrong.
I think you're more about England than you are about Britain.
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I think you're more about England than you are about Britain.
Based on what?
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Old 07-29-2018, 03:52 PM   #166 (permalink)
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White privilege is a collection of factors and statistics that prove that the American system is more likely to put white people in power rather than other minorities.

A great point that backs it up is the fact that the worst places in America with the most poverty, the least resources and the most violence are primarily black areas with a history of being refused resources over racial discrimination from a time when black people were segregated into these communities away from white people.

Another great point is that minorities are given harsher sentences than white people for the same crimes. To go along with that is the fact that some police stations are literally telling their officers to target minorities over whites to hit quota.

Because of our history of racism white people are more likely to have connections and opportunities from being born in a family that built connections, businesses and opportunities over time while a lot of minorities don't have those some connections because our racist history literally prevented them from doing it. A great example is the fact that there are more white legacy students in college (these are students that were accepted into universities because they are related to alumni of those colleges) than there are black people in college as a whole.

There is also a perceptional bias assuming that minorities are criminals or gang members causing them to be harassed or blamed or stalked in stores. White people in America almost never have to worry about being treated unfairly in stores, restaurants, places of employment, etc. because of their race.

Edit: The first American president that wasn't white was accused of not being an actual citizen and was harassed into providing a birth certificate because of the color of his skin. Even the most powerful person in America is not exempt from the harassment, prejudice and assumptions that white people in this country never have to face. If that isn't a sign of white privilege, I don't know what is.
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Old 07-29-2018, 04:10 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Or because it doesn't exist.
Oh man. You're just like...wrong though.
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White privilege is a collection of factors and statistics that prove that the American system is more likely to put white people in power rather than other minorities.

A great point that backs it up is the fact that the worst places in America with the most poverty, the least resources and the most violence are primarily black areas with a history of being refused resources over racial discrimination from a time when black people were segregated into these communities away from white people.

Another great point is that minorities are given harsher sentences than white people for the same crimes. To go along with that is the fact that some police stations are literally telling their officers to target minorities over whites to hit quota.

Because of our history of racism white people are more likely to have connections and opportunities from being born in a family that built connections, businesses and opportunities over time while a lot of minorities don't have those some connections because our racist history literally prevented them from doing it. A great example is the fact that there are more white legacy students in college (these are students that were accepted into universities because they are related to alumni of those colleges) than there are black people in college as a whole.

There is also a perceptional bias assuming that minorities are criminals or gang members causing them to be harassed or blamed or stalked in stores. White people in America almost never have to worry about being treated unfairly in stores, restaurants, places of employment, etc. because of their race.

Edit: The first American president that wasn't white was accused of not being an actual citizen and was harassed into providing a birth certificate because of the color of his skin. Even the most powerful person in America is not exempt from the harassment, prejudice and assumptions that white people in this country never have to face. If that isn't a sign of white privilege, I don't know what is.
Thank you because that's a lot of effort to put in for people who don't care, but don't forget about the history of housing discrimination where blacks were prevented from owning homes in white neighborhoods by unofficial but very real segregation. The prevention of blacks from the kind of wealth afforded by home ownership is important. Not to mention that the ownership opportunities given to them in low income areas had unfair pricing that basically forced them to forgo maintaining their property just to pay their mortgages so that their property values plummeted.
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Old 07-29-2018, 04:33 PM   #169 (permalink)
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That has nothing to do with anything so I'll just ask you again if you've ever honestly looked into the idea of white privilege without actively trying to disprove it or just watching Youtube videos of people who are trying to disprove it.

If you think that nobody has ever given you a good explanation of white privilege and why it exists then it might be because it's an abstract concept that's very hard to point to with a smoking gun. So maybe you should seek the information and opinions out yourself instead of declaring victory over a concept that is very easy to denigrate by people who have a vested interest in nitpicking it (i.e. white people who don't want to feel guilty about anything).
It's a stupid term.. it implies that white people as a whole have a distinct advantage and all the arguments use specific examples. There is nothing inherently advantageous about being white skinned. It is entirely dependent on where you live. So why not be clear and discuss how white americans have privileges over other minority americans instead of using some lame race baiting generalization? That's really what you mean when you use the term.
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Thank you because that's a lot of effort to put in for people who don't care, but don't forget about the history of housing discrimination where blacks were prevented from owning homes in white neighborhoods by unofficial but very real segregation. The prevention of blacks from the kind of wealth afforded by home ownership is important. Not to mention that the ownership opportunities given to them in low income areas had unfair pricing that basically forced them to forgo maintaining their property just to pay their mortgages so that their property values plummeted.
I didn't know that and I learned something today.
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