The #metoo thread (sexual assault and/or misconduct discussion)

[GunmouthGrace]

Originally Posted by [MERIT]

How weak-willed does a person have to be to just say say NO when someone asks if they can masturbate in front of them? Nobody is holding a gun to these girls' heads. Say NO, call the dude a creepy pervert, maybe even slap him in the face if you feel it necessary, and walk away.

Women [and men, for that matter]: Protect yourselves out there. Carry pepper spray, a stun gun, a REAL gun, a knife, a whistle. Whatever you need to feel safe. Get some martial arts training. If you don't watch out for yourself, no one else will.

I do agree that we should all take steps to protect ourselves, but I find the 'weak willed' paragraph here to be frankly ignorant.

Speaking as an admittedly weak willed woman who can be mousier than Adrian on her first date with Rocky, I like to think that if I were cornered by a perv that I would 'say NO, call the dude a creepy pervert, maybe even slap him in the face if I feel it necessary, and walk away'.

But it's easy for me to think that when I've never been in that kind of situation, because the truth is I'm a total beta bitch irl despite how I may present myself on this forum. No, nobody would be holding a gun to my head (hopefully...).

But I have to imagine that feeling completely powerless and in the heat of the moment, it's not unusual for someone to completely freeze up and wonder if what's happening right then really is, etc.

[YorkeDaddy]

Unfortunately several of us have made that exact point to him but he won’t budge from his gross stance

[WWWP]

Originally Posted by GunmouthGrace

But I have to imagine that feeling completely powerless and in the heat of the moment, it's not unusual for someone to completely freeze up and wonder if what's happening right then really is, etc.

That's exactly right - fight, flight, or freeze, we can't control or predict what we will do when faced with such a situation. To victim blame and speak to what women "should" do when being assaulted is beyond ignorant, it's violent.

[DwnWthVwls]

No one gets off the hook for being too weak willed to refrain from taking action. "Sorry officer I just couldn't stop myself from *your crime here*"..

Sounds like double standards more than victim blaming.

[WWWP]

Too weak willed lol. That's some bull****.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

No one gets off the hook for being too weak willed to refrain from taking action. "Sorry officer I just couldn't stop myself from *your crime here*"..

Sounds like double standards more than victim blaming.

Double standard for what? Are people too weak willed to rape but still go on to rape anyways?

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

That's exactly right - fight, flight, or freeze, we can't control or predict what we will do when faced with such a situation. To victim blame and speak to what women "should" do when being assaulted is beyond ignorant, it's violent.

Opinions are capable of violence?

[DwnWthVwls]

Yes, some people are too weak willed to stop themselves from raping or setting things on fire or getting into fights or doing drugs... those people are held accountable for their actions.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Yes, some people are to weak willed to stop themselves from raping or setting things on fire or getting into fights or doing drugs...

False equivalency like a barnfire.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Frownland

False equivalency like a barnfire.

It is true that there’s no free will.