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Old 08-28-2018, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The #metoo thread (sexual assault and/or misconduct discussion)

Since our mods are too lazy to move that whole discussion in the netflix thread to a separate thread, here it is because :

Louis C.K. Performs First Stand-Up Set Since Misconduct Scandal

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The comedian delivered a set of “typical Louis C.K. stuff” without referencing the scandal
Well of course he didn't.

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Louis C.K. received an ovation before his surprise set began.
Well of course he did.

So basically, he took a bit of a holiday, and everything's peachy now...except:
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Some of the women who came forward with the allegations described ongoing personal and professional repercussions. “I’ve experienced vicious and swift backlash from women and men, in and out of the comedy community,” comedian Rebecca Corry wrote for Vulture. “I’ve received death threats, been berated, judged, ridiculed, dismissed, shamed, and attacked.”
But y'know...they had it comin' I guess...women, amirite? :/
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I’ve thought that he deserves a second chance, though it’s very weird how this all went down. He didn’t address it at all? I mean I know he made a public statement about it but doing it again in person before a set after 10 months of reflection would have been the smart move I think.
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Definitely expected him to touch on the scandal at least.

The backlash to the women is gross but I think it kind of reflects a lot of the structural enabling of this kind of behaviour like with Nassir, the Catholic church, and Hollywood/Weinstein. Louis was basically the king of modern comedy in a well-connected scene, so a lot of comedians saw the scandal as a threat to their industry and behaved ****tily in order to protect it.

Hopefully he has new material soon, he's still a hysterical fellow.
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Old 08-28-2018, 10:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I’ve thought that he deserves a second chance, .
Respectfully disagree. Anybody that has been found guilty of sexual misconduct or otherwise to anybody is no longer eligible for a second chance.
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Respectfully disagree. Anybody that has been found guilty of sexual misconduct or otherwise to anybody is no longer eligible for a second chance.
Well we've already put in our .02 on this, I think there are varying levels of sexual misconduct and what he did comes across as someone with some issues and he probably did not realize that what he was doing was very wrong. Compare that to someone like Weinstein who absolutely knew what he was doing was horrible. People can learn and become better, I think one can make even worse mistakes than Louis did and still redeem themselves.
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Definitely expected him to touch on the scandal at least.

The backlash to the women is gross but I think it kind of reflects a lot of the structural enabling of this kind of behaviour like with Nassir, the Catholic church, and Hollywood/Weinstein. Louis was basically the king of modern comedy in a well-connected scene, so a lot of comedians saw the scandal as a threat to their industry and behaved ****tily in order to protect it.

Hopefully he has new material soon, he's still a hysterical fellow.
Separate the art from the artist, but if he doesn't try to cover that **** in his act at some point then he has no balls. Even just on an artistic level if he acts like that's forbidden territory then it will create a disconnect with him as a person and him as a comedian while making him look like a bitch.
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Separate the art from the artist, but if he doesn't try to cover that **** in his act at some point then he has no balls. Even just on an artistic level if he acts like that's forbidden territory then it will create a disconnect with him as a person and him as a comedian while making him look like a bitch.
Ditto.
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He got away with it for a long time, and then the jig was up. The best thing to do would have been to lie on that pile of money he made (and will continue to make I'm sure from tv rights) and stay quiet and out of sight. If he had some decency he would have at least addressed the issue, but it takes some nerve to just continue as if nothing happened. If I was in that crowd I sure as fuck would have said something. Goes to show what kind of a society we live in.
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I don't get how consensual sexual relations is now being considered sexual assault.

What would only be considered sexual harassment or misconduct if there was no consent.

Thoughtless on his part for not realizing that they might say yes because of how notorious the industry is for having people of authority force this on others as a means to determine their career, it's still something they consented to. Their assumptions of what he may do if they said no doesn't justify calling it sexual assault if they consented.

People grow, people learn, people change. I'm sure he has. You can't truly be self righteous enough to think he is unforgivable. Putting him on par with Kevin Spacey or Bill Cosby is unfair.
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If he had some decency he would have at least addressed the issue, but it takes some nerve to just continue as if nothing happened.
Time will tell. Also: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/a...statement.html
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