Coronavirus: COVID-19

The Batlord · 08-27-2020, 04:25 PM

You can tell OH typed that with one hand if you know what I'm sayin'.

Anteater · 08-27-2020, 04:32 PM

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You can tell OH typed that with one hand if you know what I'm sayin'.

Lisnaholic · 08-27-2020, 05:48 PM

It's not a competition, but for purposes of perspective, it's interesting to know how your country is coping with coronavirus compared to other countries. Figures per capita can help to do that, and here are some stats that are only 1 week old, from pretty reliable sources*:-

* Although there's quite a lot of controversy about how each country records it's covid deaths.

OccultHawk · 08-27-2020, 06:02 PM

Any European country ahead of Italy should really be ashamed. That’s pathetic.

Norg · 08-27-2020, 06:31 PM

how the hell is Peru so high half the country is mountains and rainforest ..???? like the population in thoes regions is thin you could say ....???

unless the virus went into the rainforst and killed the tribes

Lisnaholic · 08-27-2020, 08:33 PM

There's a huge bunch of factors that determine what the death rate is, for instance:
> how affluent the country is, how responsive/organised the govt is
> the age and genetic disposition of the population
> population density

My guess is Peru has problems with affluence, organisation and genetic disposition, but that's just a guess.
For the shameful showing of the UK, the probs have been responsiveness, population density and age.

The Batlord · 08-27-2020, 08:37 PM

I've been given to understand that Latin America in general has a high proportion of low wage workers who are basically gig workers and have nothing to support their families if they don't go to work and so all the quarantine efforts of those countries are essentially meaningless cause so many workers simply have to go out into public because they have no choice. Mexico is one of those countries as far as I know so perhaps you've noticed poor people on the streets doing jobs rather than staying home.

OccultHawk · 08-27-2020, 11:42 PM

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For the shameful showing of the UK, the probs have been responsiveness, population density and age.

No matter what the other factors are responsiveness offered a complete solution. The UK had the resources and infrastructure to beat this and actively decided not to. It was challenging but nowhere close to impossible.

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how the hell is Peru so high half the country is mountains and rainforest ..???? like the population in thoes regions is thin you could say ....???

unless the virus went into the rainforst and killed the tribes

After the conquistadors around 80% of Peruvians died from infectious diseases.

Lisnaholic · 08-28-2020, 06:59 AM

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I've been given to understand that Latin America in general has a high proportion of low wage workers who are basically gig workers and have nothing to support their families if they don't go to work and so all the quarantine efforts of those countries are essentially meaningless cause so many workers simply have to go out into public because they have no choice. Mexico is one of those countries as far as I know so perhaps you've noticed poor people on the streets doing jobs rather than staying home.

Absolutely right, Batlord. With no unemployment benefit, and high unemployment, workers were screwed even before covid, taking low wages and unpaid overtime as the norm.
Now people are wearing masks, and shops/banks have a temp check and hand sanitizer for every customer. Restaurants are empty, but not closed. The people worst off are the poor "self-employed" street sellers whose income is what they can sell in a day; they've had no option other than to keep going, selling stuff on the streets downtown, or where I live, cycling around hoping to make a sale. Depressing as f for them I should think.

In my city (population 1 million), we have a curfew at 11 p.m. to deter party-goers: if you're out later than that, you'll have to explain why to the police patrols. Two weeks ago a big conference centre was converted into a decently-equipped emergency hospital, but at present there are only about 30 covid patients in it. In fact, my niece works there; Shout out to a brave young girl.

What are the plus points for poverty-level Mexicans in my city? Free schooling, free but rudamentary health care, and also, most families own their houses. Instead of renting, they have a family house that has been passed down for generations, so at least eviction is not a threat, even though you may have to share a bedroom with your grandma for most of your adult life.
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No matter what the other factors are responsiveness offered a complete solution. Boris Johnson had the resources and infrastructure to beat this and actively decided not to. It was challenging but nowhere close to impossible.

ftfy

OccultHawk · 08-28-2020, 07:26 AM

I didn’t need Donald Trump to tell me what to do. It’s a combination of bad governance and rotten culture.

08-27-2020, 05:48 PM	#2803 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	It's not a competition, but for purposes of perspective, it's interesting to know how your country is coping with coronavirus compared to other countries. Figures per capita can help to do that, and here are some stats that are only 1 week old, from pretty reliable sources:- Although there's quite a lot of controversy about how each country records it's covid deaths. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	Any European country ahead of Italy should really be ashamed. That’s pathetic. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

08-27-2020, 08:33 PM	#2806 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	There's a huge bunch of factors that determine what the death rate is, for instance: > how affluent the country is, how responsive/organised the govt is > the age and genetic disposition of the population > population density My guess is Peru has problems with affluence, organisation and genetic disposition, but that's just a guess. For the shameful showing of the UK, the probs have been responsiveness, population density and age. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

08-28-2020, 07:26 AM	#2810 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	I didn’t need Donald Trump to tell me what to do. It’s a combination of bad governance and rotten culture. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

08-27-2020, 06:31 PM	#2805 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,344	how the hell is Peru so high half the country is mountains and rainforest ..???? like the population in thoes regions is thin you could say ....??? unless the virus went into the rainforst and killed the tribes