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Old 03-20-2020, 12:10 PM   #571 (permalink)
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627 people died in Italy last night.

Over 4,000 in total now.

**** me.
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Old 03-20-2020, 12:17 PM   #572 (permalink)
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I heard this thing were the first time wash your hands you wash away the germs. But if you have washed hands and they get contaminated it harder to wash away the germs. I'm guess the logic behind that is that dead skin is a barrier between the germs and your live skin. Wash away the dead skin and the germs cling to your hands even more, so you have to wash your hands twice as long.

Plus using "anti-bacterial" soap is only good for "bacteria," not viruses. Even with ordinary soap some bacteria escape the hand washing so it's also a good practice to use hand sanitizer, which can kill noroviruses too. I don't know how effective it is against coronaviruses.

I noticed while using alcohol "hand sanitizer" it has two adverse effects. One it dries out the skin. Two if it's the gel form, the gel dries on the skin making your hands slightly ever so sticky and your hands end up picking up more dirt, and probably more germs. Is almost like rubbing glue all over on your hands and picking up all kinds of dirt & dust and germs. Yeah, you killed the germs on your hands, but as soon as you start using your hands again you're basically starting from square one picking up all kind of new germs all over again.


Italy has an aging population, plus it is a small close knit country. It may not of the infrastructural to deal with this crisis. I heard Germany basically flat out banned their doctors to travel to Italy to help.
Thanks for this information, I also wondered about how fast germs pick up back on the hands after cleaning. I also heard the body is covered in bacteria already and needs some. Never thought about soap not being enough for viruses.

If you arnt trying to troll me into more fear, stay safe friend, if you are, please dont
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Old 03-20-2020, 12:31 PM   #573 (permalink)
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Just FYI you would have to cut your hands to remove ALL the bacteria and viruses

And yes too much hand sanitizer can upset the ph on your skin and create cracks that might cause exposure - soap and scrubbing wears **** down too

There’s at least a minimal downside to everything.

Any sane person is washing their hands A LOT and if you don’t have a sink use germ-x at least for now. Trust me I’m sure.
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I heard this thing were the first time wash your hands you wash away the germs. But if you have washed hands and they get contaminated it harder to wash away the germs. I'm guess the logic behind that is that dead skin is a barrier between the germs and your live skin. Wash away the dead skin and the germs cling to your hands even more, so you have to wash your hands twice as long.

Plus using "anti-bacterial" soap is only good for "bacteria," not viruses. Even with ordinary soap some bacteria escape the hand washing so it's also a good practice to use hand sanitizer, which can kill noroviruses too. I don't know how effective it is against coronaviruses.

I noticed while using alcohol "hand sanitizer" it has two adverse effects. One it dries out the skin. Two if it's the gel form, the gel dries on the skin making your hands slightly ever so sticky and your hands end up picking up more dirt, and probably more germs. Is almost like rubbing glue all over on your hands and picking up all kinds of dirt & dust and germs. Yeah, you killed the germs on your hands, but as soon as you start using your hands again you're basically starting from square one picking up all kind of new germs all over again.


Italy has an aging population, plus it is a small close knit country. It may not of the infrastructural to deal with this crisis. I heard Germany basically flat out banned their doctors to travel to Italy to help.
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The news just said they think half of the population of California have been infected. 20m people?
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Day 4 of quarantine.

Mulder is stoked I'm home with him all day. He's a good boy.

Already feeling stir crazy, have no idea what to do with myself.

I'm just so BORED.
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I could go months

**** I did a few years ago when my depression hit the hardest

With naps and books and music I’m just not bored

Or I don’t care if it’s boring. Just washing the dishes is plenty for one day.
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