Coronavirus: COVID-19

OccultHawk · 02-07-2021, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Raime

Unfortunately, it's been speculated by that the amount of cases is higher than the number China has officially given.

OK then I’m officially “speculating” it’s actually lower.

The the rest of you: link me to anything where ant directly defends Trump on anything besides foreign policy

None of this I know where this is going inferencing but direct pro-Trump statements

Cause I don’t remember him being pro-trump

Ant believes there’s entrepreneurial / capitalist solutions to major problems which is an ideology I typically reject offhand but I don’t remember all the tie-ins to Trump style populism / fascism that y’all are claiming

So show me that

Raime · 02-07-2021, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

China didn't really know, the WHO didn't even know yet

the US had no excuse

Please, please, please, watch the Frontline PBS video. It's a really good look into this. Chinese disease experts and doctors knew as early as December 26th when they got a short DNA sequence from a sample. Li Wenliang told his fellow medical school graduates that this was a danger to come on December 30th. He got V& for that btw (and actually died from COVID).

OccultHawk · 02-07-2021, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yeah you're not a Trump loyalist but you do simp for him as a chaos agent who triggers the left. Which is internet fascism in a nutshell.

Not liking the bitch ass identity left and getting a giggle out of their sad worthless misery is not fascism

In fact, Ant at least deals with the real problem in this world - wealth disparity

I don’t always agree with how but while y’all were worried about ****ing some stupid ****ing slur or some **** he was talking about UBI - you know, money, that people can actually use to improve their ****ing lives

OccultHawk · 02-07-2021, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Raime

Please, please, please, watch the Frontline PBS video. It's a really good look into this. Chinese disease experts and doctors knew as early as December 26th when they got a short DNA sequence from a sample. Li Wenliang told his fellow medical school graduates that this was a danger to come on December 30th. He got V& for that btw (and actually died from COVID).

Everyone knows that story. The Chinese government was still working out what was going on. Everyone knows you can’t go rogue in China. They don’t let individuals spread cockamamie bs that will lead to bat**** American levels of stupidity. You know who believes in evolution in China? Everyone. In this case they suppressed someone who was right. Of course they’re not going to admit their mistake. It’s ****ing China. But more importantly they corrected their mistake. Not to the unfortunate individual doctor but definitely to society at large.

The Batlord · 02-07-2021, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Not liking the bitch ass identity left and getting a giggle out of their sad worthless misery is not fascism

In fact, Ant at least deals with the real problem in this world - wealth disparity

I don’t always agree with how but while y’all were worried about ****ing some stupid ****ing slur or some **** he was talking about UBI - you know, money, that people can actually use to improve their ****ing lives

You're a nut job who supports genocide to be edgy so you have no ability to think rationally about identity politics. When Ant compares BLM protests to storming the Capital so he can justify supporting the latter when he's been nothing but critical of BLM on grounds of property destruction and white supremacy not being issue then I call fascism.

And when you say yeah no I'd be all for socialism if it could be made to work but all his actual solutions are just give business guys (his class) money so they can innovate our way out of problems with science fiction solutions that actually require at the very least sweeping reform and regulation of business rather than handing them subsidies I say he just wants a government subsidy he can pocket and everything else he says is a front.

OccultHawk · 02-07-2021, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You're a nut job who supports genocide to be edgy so you have no ability to think rationally about identity politics. When Ant compares BLM protests to storming the Capital so he can justify supporting the latter when he's been nothing but critical of BLM on grounds of property destruction and white supremacy not being issue then I call fascism.

And when you say yeah no I'd be all for socialism if it could be made to work but all his actual solutions are just give business guys (his class) money so they can innovate our way out of problems with science fiction solutions that actually require at the very least sweeping reform and regulation of business rather than handing them subsidies I say he just wants a government subsidy he can pocket and everything else he says is a front.

So in other words you don’t have anything. Got it. Just what you want to say it adds up to not he says it adds up to.

And I supported Myanmar’s action against the Rohingya people because I understand they can’t be expected absorb Bangladesh.

That’s Bangladesh. A country I’ve been to and a country you know nothing about. Every Burmese person accepted it because they knew there was no other way. And if you were Burmese you’d totally feel the same ****ing way. Everyone wants to put their western lenses on it but all they know is ten minutes of news clips and one or two articles.

Anteater · 02-07-2021, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

When Ant compares BLM protests to storming the Capital so he can justify supporting the latter when he's been nothing but critical of BLM on grounds of property destruction and white supremacy not being issue then I call fascism.

I'm critical of BLM because they're a front for other people's money and a marketing gimmick. Their activities have zero bearing on anything resembling a comprehensive legislative goal, whether for good or for ill. They'll trash a Starbucks or a black-owned bar and defend that garbage on Twitter but they won't go to the Capitol and throw down on the politicians. There's nothing special or insightful about them other than the fact you agree with the optics based on white guilt or some other faux-emotional bull**** that you actually don't care about but you use as an excuse to strawman people in an argument on unrelated issues. Get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

And when you say yeah no I'd be all for socialism if it could be made to work but all his actual solutions are just give business guys (his class) money so they can innovate our way out of problems with science fiction solutions that actually require at the very least sweeping reform and regulation of business rather than handing them subsidies I say he just wants a government subsidy he can pocket and everything else he says is a front.

"Science-fiction" solutions? Everything I've discussed in regards to tech is already here in some form or fashion. The challenge is, and always has been, widespread adoption. Reform and regulation don't matter if enough people don't become aware of the alternatives, and that's a marketing + "business class" issue. Every criticism you've ever made towards me based on what I've said in the past is based on vulgar generalities, and you are so scattered you can't even remember what you ever had a problem with in the first place. Your last sentence there is the epitome of slander.

Anteater · 02-07-2021, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

where have you been

contextualizing right/left ideology and good music are his bread and butter

See, that wasn't so hard.

~~jwb~~ · 02-08-2021, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Sure there is, and I clearly made it. I never said Trump's response to the virus was good either. The U.S. government bungled the response and Americans do whatever they want anyway, which is why people died. None of what I said had anything to do with how well or how ineffectually another country other than China dealt with the coronavirus. It is completely irrelevant to every single point I have made.

nah bruh you have a transparently **** take here

It's all about deflecting blame from trump cause China bad.

Say what you will about China... Clearly every single east asian country including China , sk, Vietnam etc know how to deal with this sorta pandemic and we don't. The numbers are clear as day. Covid 19 is the biggest east asian win since the mongol empire.

~~jwb~~ · 02-08-2021, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

OK then I’m officially “speculating” it’s actually lower.

The the rest of you: link me to anything where ant directly defends Trump on anything besides foreign policy

None of this I know where this is going inferencing but direct pro-Trump statements

Cause I don’t remember him being pro-trump

Ant believes there’s entrepreneurial / capitalist solutions to major problems which is an ideology I typically reject offhand but I don’t remember all the tie-ins to Trump style populism / fascism that y’all are claiming

So show me that

sorry but the days of hiding behind plausible deniability are over

That's the ultimate manifestation of passive aggressive beta white people swag

We know how to read between the lines. Detect patterns. Notice lies by omission.