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jwb 03-22-2021 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2167145)
No thanks.



**** off.

:D
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2167146)
Bro nobody cares about ethics in video game journalism.

:confused::beer:

Psy-Fi 03-30-2021 11:12 AM

Captain Underpants: Children's book withdrawn over 'passive racism'

jwb 03-30-2021 11:51 AM

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The book, titled The Adventures of Ook and Gluk: Kung-Fu Cavemen from the Future, was first published in 2010.
:laughing: sounds hilarious. Now I wanna read this book.

I'm starting to think these people are self cancelling as a marketing strategy tbh

jwb 03-30-2021 12:15 PM

Also I wanna say so far my favorite result of cancel culture is the redskins having to change their name and refusing to come up with a new one so now we have the Washington Football Team :laughing:

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 03-30-2021 12:30 PM

America's obsession with having secondary team names is stupid anyway.

I would much rather a name like Washington Football Team over something dumb like the Cleveland Browns.

It's hilarious to me that nobody ever thought to just refer to them as Washington though. I laugh every time a commentator says "the Football Team."

jwb 03-30-2021 12:41 PM

Yeah but that's how american pro sports works... It's not just about the location an the sport it's about the merchandise, mascots etc.

It's all just an outlet for tribalism so ironically enough a name like the seminoles for example is actually pretty apt

Most people don't see it on that deeper level they just see the sport... In which case you have two new York Football teams, two new York basketball teams etc. If you a new yorker what makes you pick one over the other?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 03-30-2021 12:50 PM

I feel like there are a lot of reasons other than one team having a different name that leads to people liking a team.

I agree with the tribalism point but doesn't that essentially just reduce it to "I cheer for team x because my father/mother/friend etc. also does?" At least in most cases I would think so.

Either way I just think the team names are often corny and don't even coincide well with the area they're based in.

SGR 03-30-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2168033)
I did laugh pretty hard when I heard this

I think everyone was in agreement that "Redskins" was cringe and announcers probably felt weird saying it

I mean could you imagine that flying with any other group

They were the Redskins so long that it wasn't weird at all for the announcers to say it. There's been multiple moments throughout last season where announcers mistakenly still referred to them as the Redskins or stuttered and tripped over words in a moment of awkwardness as they tried not to refer to them as the Redskins.

The Batlord 03-30-2021 01:52 PM

They should make their name the Washington Trail of Tears to piss off literally everyone.

jwb 03-30-2021 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 2168032)
I feel like there are a lot of reasons other than one team having a different name that leads to people liking a team.

I agree with the tribalism point but doesn't that essentially just reduce it to "I cheer for team x because my father/mother/friend etc. also does?" At least in most cases I would think so.

Either way I just think the team names are often corny and don't even coincide well with the area they're based in.

they're often corny which you can them use as ammo to trigger their fans

By making fun of their ****ty name or dumb mascot or gay jerseys

You gotta look on the bright side of things

Asking why name teams is like asking why countries have flags or why knights and families had insignias

It all goes back to the tribalism like I said. It's just an added flair. If you've ever seen a really lit college sports game you know what I'm talking about. All the colors and banners and mascots get people into a sorta mob mentality.

Raime 03-30-2021 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2168076)
Lil Nas X cancelled by the right after they were singing along to "Old Town Road"

I wouldn't know anything else about the guy, that song is a real crime against humanity though, in that it makes me wish to be deaf

if anything cancel him for that goddamn

He's being too non-white and non-straight. Satan in music isn't exactly new, and there are far more anti-christian musicians out there. Why don't they go after Varg or someone like that? The man is a murderer who destroyed hundreds of years worth of Christian history.

The Batlord 03-30-2021 08:34 PM

https://i.imgur.com/oKuImC2.jpg

adidasss 03-31-2021 12:49 AM

Lil Nas X has last word as controversy erupts over 'devil-worshipping' video

The song is mediocre but he does seem to have a flair for self-promotion. And I'm loving the fallout...:D

50M views and counting.

jwb 03-31-2021 01:17 AM

Video is dope tbh

The whole Eden/demonic angle really adds to it... Especially considering how homophobic black culture in this country is and how many religious conspiracy theories there are about the illuminati using hollywood and hip hop to push a gay agenda.... This video just completely leans into that. Instead of the approach of "my gay marriage is the same as your straight marriage" it's just an open endorsement of subversion... decadence... hedonism... All of which are intrinsic aspects of the kind of materialistic and status obsessed world view that is so pervasive in hip hop.

SGR 03-31-2021 07:57 AM

Using hip hop to push a gay agenda? I've never heard that one.

Hip hop in my experience contains a lot of homophobia/homophobic slurs. Or at least it used to.

Frownland 03-31-2021 08:10 AM

https://i.imgur.com/JFnhL1M.jpg

jwb 03-31-2021 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2168107)
Using hip hop to push a gay agenda? I've never heard that one.

Hip hop in my experience contains a lot of homophobia/homophobic slurs. Or at least it used to.

Yeah well the board I used to frequent before MB was more hip hop oriented and there are definitely people who think hollywood is using hip hop to break down the masculinity of the black man... I'm not saying it's right but there is that perception.

Basically hip hop is one of the last bastions of unapologetic masculinity and bravado in modern pop culture.. in an era where said macho posturing is being seen as more and more taboo/problematic

Hip hop was one of the longest standing pillars of this ethos precisely because it wasn't as receptive to white feminists criticizing it for being too misogynist. Said criticisms were perceived as just another white dismissal of a black art form.

But as time goes by and the culture shifts, hip hop and the black community in america have evolving attitudes towards things like lgbt/feminist issues and we're seeing a generally more accepting environment than would've seemed possible 20 years ago.

But there is still the inherent bravado that is implicit in hip hop and cannot be erased because it is intrinsic to the art form. Hence Cardio B comes out with WAP and feminists say ah she's empowering women. She's just using the same frame work males used to talk about hoes but with inverted sexes. The bravado remains in tact. Same with this lil nas x song. There's nothing sappy or apologetic or attempting to pull at your heart strings about it, like that old Macklemore song which was just corny. Lil nas X just leans in on all the decadent and satanic imagery on top of the gay **** and this once again keeps the bravado in tact.

Obliviously, people who are predisposed to conspiracy thinking, religious mindset and conservative mindset are going to recognize this antagonism against their world vote for what it is and as such perceived it as more satanic brainwashing set forth from on high. From whoever it is that looks out that eye at the top of the pyramid.

SGR 03-31-2021 11:56 AM

Ah okay, with the explanation, I understand what you were getting at. With most things, it depends on the perspective of the person listening and their various confirmation biases.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2168134)
well the board I used to frequent before MB was more hip hop oriented and there are definitely people who think hollywood is using hip hop to break down the masculinity of the black man...

Was it boxden?

jwb 03-31-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2168138)
gay af

:laughing: it's funny you have to resort to toxic masculinity to attack it.

Raime 03-31-2021 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2168109)

Her response after this was pretty **** and reaching.

Lucem Ferre 03-31-2021 07:34 PM

Matt Gaetz is being investigated for having sex with/trafficking a 17 year old. And that's a biproduct of a completely different GOP member being investigated for sex trafficking.

The Batlord 03-31-2021 07:46 PM

Apparently he went on Tucker Carlson and said it was just a blackmail plot and then was like "Hey, Tucker, you were having dinner with me when that person came up and tried to shake me down, you remember right? And Tucker was just like "Yeah I don't know what you're talking about."

YorkeDaddy 04-01-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Raime (Post 2168166)
Her response after this was pretty **** and reaching.

Everything Kaitlin Bennett has ever said or done is ****ing idiotic so that's no surprise. Also obligatory reminder of her infamous photo where she pooped herself in the middle of a party

Also I hope Matt Gaetz gets more than cancelled, I hope he ends up in jail. Piece of **** motha****a, man

adidasss 04-20-2021 08:04 PM

Richard Dawkins loses ‘humanist of the year’ title over trans comments

Time to cancel Richard Dawkins.

The Batlord 04-20-2021 08:06 PM

What a Dick.

jwb 04-20-2021 09:12 PM

Clearly trolling for publicity cause nobody cares about his atheism schtick anymore.

Frownland 04-21-2021 08:36 AM

He probably has a book coming out soon.

BassoonPlatoon 04-28-2021 11:50 AM

Your post says "cancelled", but the gif says "canceled".

So I am confusion.

Psy-Fi 04-29-2021 05:38 AM

Biden Administration Plans to Propose Banning Menthol Cigarettes

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About 85 percent of Black smokers use menthol brands, including Newport and Kool, according to the Food and Drug Administration.

SGR 04-29-2021 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2170873)

Damn, I knew he was racist deep down. Banning menthol cigs, gtfo Joe.

The Batlord 04-29-2021 06:21 AM

No it's brilliant. He's taking an L to unite black people and rednecks. Then AOC will swoop in in 2024 and give them all Newports, Kools, and communist healthcare and the Republican Party will be destroyed once and for all.

SGR 04-29-2021 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2170881)
the whole phenomenon is weird, like how yuppies smoke American Spirits

I thought it was hipsters that smoked American Spirits and yuppies that smoked Nat Shermans?

Plankton 04-29-2021 10:48 AM

Yuppies smoke clove cigs. I smoked Newports from 5th grade up until I cancelled that **** in 2014.

*cough*

*wheeze*

jwb 04-29-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2170881)
the reason blacks smoke menthols is entirely down to a racist marketing campaign to begin with

the whole phenomenon is weird, like how yuppies smoke American Spirits

also idc if this is toxic masculinity I look at a grown ass man smoking menthol kinda like he's drinking a wine cooler

you heard it here first... Only women and children should smoke menthols

SGR 04-30-2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2170885)
I don't know what people mean by "hipsters" anymore

but the people that smoked Nat Shermans now vape

JUUL FOUR PACK

Even a vape aint as smooth as a Nat Sherman

jwb 05-01-2021 02:57 AM

Not currently... I did when I was in the program... There are cheap brands that only taste decent as menthol

Right now I smoke marlboro blacks... But I vape too cause I'm cutting down on smoking and trying to ease out of it

The Batlord 05-01-2021 02:32 PM

So you like blacks?

jwb 05-01-2021 03:16 PM

Apparently more than elph does seeing that so far he seems intent on attacking hip hop and menthol cigarettes.... I wonder what the next frontline will be in elphs war on blackness???

The Batlord 05-01-2021 03:19 PM

"Hey black people, pull your pants up!"

Psy-Fi 05-01-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2171141)
"Hey black people, pull your pants up!"



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