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View Poll Results: DO YOU SUPPORT BUSH AND THE WAR?
I DO SUPPORT BUSH AND THE WAR. 4 9.30%
I DO NOT SUPPORT BUSH AND THE WAR 39 90.70%
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Old 09-25-2005, 05:00 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Old 09-25-2005, 05:21 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Red states aren't effected by terrorism? I'm guessing your saying that because there are no major targets? What about....let's say, the world's largest naval base?.
First of all where is that base?

Secondly, Ill paraphrase one of my favorite editors here in Bean Town. When someone attacks the militery, its not terrorism. The Militery is there for war, its there for protection from attacks. Thats like saying they desecrated a sheild with a sword. Thats its purpose.

Joe Kehone used these words when they bombed the USS Coal. He went on to smartassily mock people who misuse the word Terrorism to mean anything that is undersierable and violent (I almost got hit by a terrorist bus, and a group of terrorist teenages leered at me).

I figured I would pass on a statement that I thoguht was true and humerous.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:01 PM   #83 (permalink)
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It's become comical how all red staters hate *** Marrige and Terrorism yet neither really effects their state.
That's where it came from.

Also, where I can see the USS Cole being a naval ship out on patrol in a region of the world where we were at war/preparing for war being misused as a word for terrorism, I disagree with the Norfolk Naval Shipyard arguement.

I guess you could make the argument of it as an "act of war", but isn't terrorism an act of war as well. You could make the statement that all people are potential recruits for the military, so that when they flew the plane into the buildings they were simply trying to kill potential recruits.

Again, see where you're/the author is coming from, but can't say I agree with it.

Also, I used the Naval base argument as an example since I live right by it. There are multiple areas that could be used for terrorism, i.e. Atlanta, Nuclear Power Plants, etc.
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Old 09-27-2005, 05:27 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I fully wanted Kerry to win. But NO, people have to vote for that bitch again.
I voted for Kerry, the lesser of the two evils. He screwed himself with all of the flip floping he did on issues.
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Old 09-27-2005, 08:42 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Also, I used the Naval base argument as an example since I live right by it. There are multiple areas that could be used for terrorism, i.e. Atlanta, Nuclear Power Plants, etc.

Would you consider the bombing of pearl harbor terrorism or the first strike in war? Must countries always declare war before they engage in it?

And by the way, like the man or not, its irrefutible that when John Kerry said "The president has left nuclear power plants unguarded and unprotected" that he wasn't lying.

The bottom line is, regardless of whether or not there are area for attacks in the US. Bush didn't do a ****ing thing about it, and so I'd reitterate, no one in the red states cares about Terrorism to the degree of facts. If they listened they'd be aware that Bush (for them) was terrible on defence and if they really cared about terrorism they'd have voted on it.

I'd also like to throw in here that my views are moderate and im none to pleased with the current mind set that being republican means your anti *** marrige/abortion.

Thats how this administration gets votes. Where has your fiscal responsibility gone Elephant. Republicans would do very well not to elect Bill Frist...the mans a moron.
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This was posted in the lounge, so why would it have to do with punk?

And you really made a choice there, why do we have to be against or for both? Who says you can't support the war but not Bush?
Why would anybody support war ? Anywhere in the world ?
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:07 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Thank you, this is what I am talking about.
In my opinion nothing is solved by wars. Besides that the reasons given by the media to us are not the real reasons and are only that - propaganda. The real reasons are always money and an adventage for a few people......
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Why would anybody support war ? Anywhere in the world ?

apparently Korea did, cos they collected some bombs.
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So the media is telling us. The media which is controlled by those in power, which are following their own agenda.
Fear and suspicion amongst people is the greatest tool to control the masses.
What I meant with my question, which might was not very clear was: Who would support a war (ask the man and woman on the street). Who of you and me would want a war - either for ourselves or for another human being.
Who wants to have their son, father, man, brother fight and die for the profit of others.
Who would want to hide from bombs - once again for other peoples profits.

Just a thought.

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