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RocksyM 04-11-2006 03:46 PM

Awesome Moves Of All Time
 
The best movies actually made me laugh at times.
Eddie Murphy's "Doctor Doolitle"
"Big Mamma's House"
then there is also the romantic epic "Shakespear's in Love"
Zeppelin's "The Song Remains The Same"
Any Jimi Hendrix Music Video is phenomenal.
Some of them so real it hurts and reaches your soul longing "Life Is Beautiful".
SOme of the worst. "Evita" with Madonna. Evita was a Natzi collaborator and they faked the whole movie and played her off as someone decent. A FALSE PRESENTATION of who the real Evita was payed for by her family who collected a billion dollars from six million killed and 450 thousand dead american soldiers including their wedding bands.

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 03:48 PM

You are blind to my point here though, one shred of anything in a movie could be true or even based on something true, but the plot of the movie could still be BASED upon that shred.

No, there are some movies that are completely ficticious and just pulled out of the writers head, but some have at least an inch of truth in them.

bungalow 04-11-2006 03:56 PM

If Amityville was soley about a man who murdered his family, it would not be the horror classic that it is today. The reason people claim the movie is so terrifying is 'omg! itz based on tru events'. People have an obsession and want to believe that things such as demons exist, because it enthralls them. What makes the movie marketable, and scary is that it is 'based on a true story', what the advertisements leave out, is the fact that the parts of the movie that make it scary, are false. Just quit while you're ahead. Every movie is not based on a true story. Have you even seen the Amityville Horror? I am guessing not since you seem to believe the movie is about a man who murdered his family. It is about the next family, the next family is what it is about. It is the family after the murders. It isn't about the murders themselves. How many more ways do I have to spell it out for you?

If the movie was soley about Butch DeFeo and what led him to murder his family, it would be fine for them to take some artistic liberty, but the fact that the movie is NOT about Butch and the DeFeo family, but instead it is about the Lutzes, and what happens to them, the fact that the things they say hapen to them are not true. Therefore the movie is not true. FOR EXAMPLE:

In American History X, there is a seen where Derek is discussing with another man, the Rodney King beatings. These beatings actually happened, but the movie is fiction.

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 04:00 PM

Ronald Defeo Jr. murdered his family...not Butch.
Anyway, of course I've seen the film! Tis one of my favorites [the old one that is, the new one was alright...wayyyy exagerated though.]

I know tis not about the actual murders, but the family. But the whole reason it is supposedly a haunted house is BECAUSE of those murders, and without the TRUE murders, the house wouldn't be haunted.

bungalow 04-11-2006 04:03 PM

You have obviously not seen the movie.

The story behind it, is that demons inside the house drove Butch to murder his family. The demons were not left in the house after murders, they were not left in the house because of the murders. The basis of the story is that the demons that were already in the house, drove Butch to do what he did.

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 04:06 PM

Yes I have seen the movie, and that really isn't arguable because it's a "he said she said" thing.

There was some hullaballo about it being built on an Indian Burial ground.

bungalow 04-11-2006 04:09 PM

Haha, even the website that you link earlier, to prove to me that it was a true story, tells anyone who actually bothered to read on, that the whole thing was a hoax

Why would you even argue with me, when the website you provided, claims it was a hoax <-----CLICK

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 04:10 PM

Yes, hoax, thats fine. But it was based on something that, at the time, was BEILIEVED to be true.

bungalow 04-11-2006 04:12 PM

And, I love how you took it upon yourself to correct me, and say 'It was Ronald DeFeo Jr.', when the website YOU LINKED, says it was Butch. (they are the same person)

And now you have completely changed your stance. At first you said, it is 'BASED' an a true story. And now you are saying 'it is BASED on a story that was BELIVED to be true.

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 04:16 PM

No, other websites and documents have said, "Ronald Defeo Jr."...which would be Butch'es son I *think*.

I did not "change my stance"! It was based on something true.
Something true at the time, they didn't know any better because it was true then.

bungalow 04-11-2006 04:19 PM

It was never true. They were just mislead that it was true. being mislead, and it actually being true, are different. And no. Ronald DeFeo Jr., had a nickname, that nickname, was Butch. They were not father and son. Are you sure you have seen the movie. Because anytime that you claim something about the movie, you have been wrong.


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No, other websites and documents have said, "Ronald Defeo Jr."...which would be Butch'es son I *think*.
1. Butch is Ronald.

Quote:

I know tis not about the actual murders, but the family. But the whole reason it is supposedly a haunted house is BECAUSE of those murders, and without the TRUE murders, the house wouldn't be haunted.
2. The demons were in the house BEFORE the murders, and are what supposodly drove Butch to murder. They were not released as a result of the murder.


EDIT: From the website YOU gave me

Quote:

At 6:30 p.m., Ronald DeFeo Jr., known by the locals as “Butch,” opened the door to the bar and yelled, “You got to help me! I think my mother and father are shot.”

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 04:24 PM

Yes I'm sure I've seen the movie. I own them too, I could take a picture if you like with me and the movies, would that be convienant, love?

Although, it would be fair to say I haven't watched them in a while. Although again, I stand by what I said in that, it was based on a true story [or something someone was "mislead" to believe to be true.]

bungalow 04-11-2006 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by some_exotic_booze
I stand by what I said in that, it was based on a true story [or something someone was "mislead" to believe to be true.]

There is quite a difference. Poor LukeUM was led to believe that Tom Petty is dead. Is that the truth? No.

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 04:29 PM

Yes but at the time, mostly everybody believed it was true.

...by the way, isn't there two known Tom Pettys? The man in the band and then there was that criminal in Florida?

bungalow 04-11-2006 04:30 PM

Just because you believe it doesn't make it true. [END OF]

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 04:32 PM

I agree, but, if most people believed it, and no one knew the real truth, then you're kind of lead to believe...

bungalow 04-11-2006 04:33 PM

Yeah, but the truth has been out for 20 some odd years. Get with the times people!

Mama Booze 04-11-2006 04:34 PM

Yea but when did the movie come out? [the original]

...

EDIT:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0078767/
1979.
The truth wasn't out when the movie was made, so people were lead to believe it was true, and the movie maker probably believed the same and said "based on".

kiki chunt 04-11-2006 08:54 PM

Ah, in no particular order . . .
Fight Club
Once Were Warriors
Bad Boy Bubby
Stop Making Sense (best live gig film ever)
Forbidden Planet
Blade Runner (director's cut)
Leon
Apocalypse Now
The Jungle Book

re Amityville - someone should make a movie and stick to the (allegedly) true story, as told in the book. "Jody" was an evil red-eyed PIG, and considerably creepier than the ghost-brat in the most recent movie . . . just my 5c's worth . . .

Reznorslave 04-11-2006 10:15 PM

I always liked the original Crow movie with Brandon Lee. That was one of the darkest yet most beautiful movies I've ever seen!

Laces Out Dan! 04-11-2006 10:35 PM

It was alright....i actually didnt like it that much

Reznorslave 04-11-2006 10:38 PM

Well, it may have had something to do with a slight Goth phase I was going through at the time!

Laces Out Dan! 04-11-2006 10:40 PM

Fair enough...You know what happened in that movie with Brandon lee though right?

Reznorslave 04-11-2006 10:41 PM

Yeah, really sad, especially with basically the same thing happening to his dad!

Laces Out Dan! 04-11-2006 10:44 PM

Yeah...Died too young..the both of them

Reznorslave 04-11-2006 10:45 PM

100% agreed!!!

Decoy 04-12-2006 05:21 AM

Rushmore was astonishing

jazzfromhell 04-12-2006 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Decoy
Rushmore was astonishing


Astonishingly good, I hope you mean. Royal Tenenbaums is my favorite Wes Anderson movie, and one of my favorites ever.

Reznorslave 04-12-2006 06:01 PM

Magnolia, forgot to mention Magnolia!

Mama Booze 04-15-2006 06:45 AM

C'monnn Cher, itsa the big easy.

Haha I LOVE this movie. "The Big Easy". I love the whole concept of it. Crooked cops [one who falls in love, mind you, with an assitant DA], wiseguys, gators...and my favorite lost city, Na' O'leannnss...Love it love it love it.

joe the first 04-15-2006 09:51 PM

i like rent. good music, good cast, great stroy.

tdoc210 04-15-2006 09:55 PM

rent blew

Mama Booze 04-15-2006 10:03 PM

EL EM A OH!
DOC! Ha! Rent is the movie I'm trying to watch right now haha. Oh my. Small world.

Anyway yee I liked Rent.

Decoy 04-15-2006 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzfromhell
Astonishingly good, I hope you mean. Royal Tenenbaums is my favorite Wes Anderson movie, and one of my favorites ever.

Thats how i meant it. :)

Just finished up the Squid and the Whale. Was very good, saddening story of Divorce. :(

TrampInaTux 04-16-2006 03:44 AM

I watched Hitch.


Hitch.


HITCH!


Don't make the same mistake as me.

Merkaba 04-16-2006 03:59 AM

Haha, the Will Smith movie?

Lucky you:rolleyes:

TrampInaTux 04-16-2006 04:27 AM

Yeah, the film with that pointy eared prick in it. I don't even want to talk about it. *cries ashamedly*

cardboard adolescent 04-16-2006 08:12 AM

Hey, don't diss Will Smith. He's the man.

TrampInaTux 04-16-2006 08:14 AM

He's alright. Just annoys me that he starred in one terrible film that I had to sit through.

Merkaba 04-16-2006 05:05 PM

Haha. I enjoy him most of the time, though it could just be nostalgia from the Fresh Prince days. I reckon he's best in the Bad Boys series.


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