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Old 03-14-2014, 10:16 AM   #13911 (permalink)
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every coin has 2 sides,
as have the ideas of national socialism.
hitler was actually just an austrian,
who loved germany more than anything in the world..
he wanted to protect the country from getting mined out by greed and corruption, so he did whatever he had to do to "clean" germany.
His methods sucked, but his motives didn't.
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Don't look at me like that, I'm a communist :P
Why I tell all of this?
Because you seem kinda surprised of yourself that you rooted for the Nazi, lol
The world is not to be looked at in black and white.
There are always shades of grey, and sometimes even colours between them.





Shut the fuck up.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:32 AM   #13912 (permalink)
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Shut the fuck up.
so what's your reason to be a ginormous dick today?
Yes. I know what he did. I AM German.
All I learned in history class my whole life is how much my country stinks
I have actually been to concentration camps.
I have seen Ausschwitz, I have watched movies there, of babies, getting smashed against the wall,
because they didn't die of the gas that was flooded into the gas chamber.
But I said his MOTIVES were good, not his METHODS, or what he did at all. he just wanted to save the country he loved.
read through what i write and don't stop reading when you're done with one half of the text, ffs.


Edit: + I'M A ****ING COMMUNIST!! I would have gotten into a concentration camp myself
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:35 AM   #13913 (permalink)
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so what's your reason to be a ginormous dick today?
Yes. I know what he did. I AM German.
All I learned in history class my whole life is how much my country stinks
I have actually been to concentration camps.
I have seen Ausschwitz, I have watched movies there, of babies, getting smashed against the wall,
because they didn't die of the gas that was flooded into the gas chamber.
But I said his MOTIVES were good, not his METHODS, or what he did at all. he just wanted to save the country he loved.
read through what i write and don't stop reading when you're done with one half of the text, ffs.
If his "motives" led to those methods than those motives aren't worth justifying. You're arguing a ridiculous point dude.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:44 AM   #13914 (permalink)
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If his "motives" led to those methods than those motives aren't worth justifying. You're arguing a ridiculous point dude.
omfg. So the "motives" of bringing "democracy" to other countries of the USA don't lead to pain, and suffering everywhere in the world? The USA does this since 80 ****ing years without a stop.
I am not even justifying the motives, I just said, that the coin has two sides. He did something out of love, that led to pain and death for millions of people.
That's the coin. That's all i'm saying. I'm not justifying. I'm not even taking a side. I'm just saying that coins have two sides....ffs, srsly.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:45 AM   #13915 (permalink)
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Yeah, I read your whole sh*tty post. Let me explain why I told you to shut the f*ck up....

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every coin has 2 sides,
This is the first thing you said, automatically setting yourself up for an apologizing argument on how Hitler wasn't that bad of a guy. HE WAS JUST MISUNDERSTOOD RIGHT GUYS?

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His methods sucked, but his motives didn't.
First off, I don't give a sh*t what your motives are. The man was responsible for the mass murder of millions of people. I don't care if he was trying to cure cancer, he led an organization that killed MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. Not to mention the fact that he started a world war that killed even more. You go ask Russia what they think of Mr. Hitler. They lost half their f*cking country. Oh, and his methods sucked? Awwwww garsh guys, that really sucked. Yeah, I think the mass murder of an entire population equates more than "Ge, that sucked".

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Because you seem kinda surprised of yourself that you rooted for the Nazi, lol
Everybody should be surprised about rooting for a Nazi. Most were evil people, at least the ones in charge were. I can understand the young foot soldiers having to fight for their country for no choice but it seemed for his description of the movie that the Nazi he was rooting for was in full belief of the Third Reich. Your comment came off as "WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED YOU LIKE A NAZI? DON'T YOU KNOW ABOUT THE MOTIVES?"

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The world is not to be looked at in black and white.
There are always shades of grey, and sometimes even colours between them.
Again, you're turning what happened into poetry. Let me explain something...THERE IS NOTHING GOOD THAT CAME FROM THE FUCKING HOLOCAUST. There is no grey area. It's a period of our existence that should be remember for how much evil existed in the world. You claim you've been to the concentration camps. You obviously learned nothing if you're going to spew that garbage all over this board. I'm disgusted by it actually. You should be ashamed of yourself. I also love the arrogance when you claim I didn't read what you wrote because obviously what you have to say is the "true" vision of what happened. I read your slop and I found it deplorable. Perhaps you should actually respond to me with a counter argument instead of sticking your nose deep into your communist assh*le.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:48 AM   #13916 (permalink)
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Holy fucking shit. I do not believe you actually went there. Unbelievable.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:49 AM   #13917 (permalink)
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omfg. So the "motives" of bringing "democracy" to other countries of the USA don't lead to pain, and suffering everywhere in the world? The USA does this since 80 ****ing years without a stop.
No one is saying that. Nationalism is ****ty every time.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:53 AM   #13919 (permalink)
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omfg. So the "motives" of bringing "democracy" to other countries of the USA don't lead to pain, and suffering everywhere in the world? The USA does this since 80 ****ing years without a stop.
I am not even justifying the motives, I just said, that the coin has two sides. He did something out of love, that led to pain and death for millions of people.
That's the coin. That's all i'm saying. I'm not justifying. I'm not even taking a side. I'm just saying that coins have two sides....ffs, srsly.
The ****e actions of one doesn't justify that of another, and I don't support the spread of democracy nor do I ever see it as anything more than protection of secondary interests. The second side of the coin is hardly worth considering if the first side contains a genocide.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:56 AM   #13920 (permalink)
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Because you seem kinda surprised of yourself that you rooted for the Nazi, lol
I feel like you read a bit too deep into that statement. They were probably surprised they ended up rooting for the villain in the movie. This tends to happen in horror movies when they make all the kids annoying little twats and you just want to see them killed off because they have no redeeming qualities.
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