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Old 03-03-2015, 11:10 AM   #15021 (permalink)
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I'm not trying to change your opinion but I always thought this sums up the movie perfectly.
I never bought into the subtleness of the plot. I seem to be by myself when it comes to my dislike of the movie so take that for what its worth. I've always been a huge Murray fan and hes usually excellent, but the movie just seemed to go nowhere for me. I understood the whole dynamic of their relationship however the movie was so slow It was almost painful to watch.
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I hated it the first time I watched it, but that was when it first came out so I was super young. Then I revisited it a few years ago, and it blew me away. Not much happens, I'll give you that - but it's about two unhappy people forming an incredible connection and they're played by two of my favourite actors. Nice cinematography as well, and the use of MBV is excellent.
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Then I revisited it a few years ago, and it blew me away. Not much happens, I'll give you that - but it's about two unhappy people forming an incredible connection
The fact that they are both so far from home in a foreign place has a lot to do with it too.
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The fact that they are both so far from home in a foreign place has a lot to do with it too.
Of all the things I liked about it the Location was an excellent choice.
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Of all the things I liked about it the Location was an excellent choice.
Made me really want to visit. Although with people, not like Murray.
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:55 AM   #15026 (permalink)
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Started off really well. We had a good premise, interesting political backdrop to the story, a colourful set of characters, enough to keep a guy invested anyway. What I thought really sucked about this one was how the movie then goes on to kill of every one of said colourful characters and leave the one totally boring, one-note one alive as the protagonist for the last hour or so. Sure, the gore's pretty nice and all that, but whatever - I was pretty disappointed with this by the end of it.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:47 PM   #15027 (permalink)
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I'm that guy, LIT was a total bore-fest. Not even Scarlet Johansson and Ribisi could save that yawn of a screenplay.
We are no acquainted people on an internet message board. That is one of my favorite films. Do you like Jarmusch? LIT and films like Only Lovers Left Alive, Dead Man, and Down By Law are supposed to be films that emit feelings rather than exposition. They're hangout films that wash over you, kinda like ambient music that repeats itself and doesn't go anywhere but it's so lovely to listen too.

I agree, not for everybody, but they have purpose.
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Obvious Child

Rom-Coms. Like the ever so fragile horror genre, there is a very small window of success when it comes to romantic comedies. At least for me. I know a few people that can’t get enough of them. A few professional critics I read laud films like Love Actually and 500 Days of Summer. I’ve seen the latter. I thought it was okay. One of my favorite films of all time, Lost in Translation, could possibly be categorized as a Rom-Com but I wouldn’t say so. That film is a dream like look at empathy and loneliness but surprisingly establishes the exact quality that I look for when I watch something romantic, realism. Whether it’s funny or not, realism is what makes a good film from a bad one. I also think that tragedy can be a very useful but overused tool when it comes to these films. The Apartment had heavy tones dealing with adultery and suicide, yet was still hysterical and endearing. Blue Valentine was devastating as we see two people spiral out of love. Obvious Child is hilarious but deals with unwanted pregnancy and abortion. Maybe I’m just ****ed up, but I just can’t like a romantic film unless something horrible happens. I guess that’s why I don’t consider Lost in Translation to be a rom-com. Nothing bad really happens. It’s just two people hanging out and developing a relationship.

Obvious Child does the opposite. It starts with the end of a relationship which catapults the films protagonist Donna, played INCREDIBLY by Jenny Slate, into a bit of a spiral. Donna is a comedian and brings her life on stage every time she gets up there. She eventually meets Max and here is where the films starts to develop into what ended up being such a pleasant surprise.

Like I said before, realism is important to me. I have to be able to feel like the characters in the film could actually exist in real life. No woman that Jennifer Lopez or Cameron Diaz have ever existed outside of Beverly Hills, Miami, or the upper west side. The majority of rom-com female leads make up the smallest percentage of what real women are like. Jenny Slate brings realism to this film. She’s awkward, anxious, and has no idea what she’s doing in her life. She reminds me of Greta Gerwig from Frances Ha except a little less hipster cool. Donna lives in Brooklyn, somehow pays only $500 in rent (which totally contradicts this whole realism theme), and works at a failing bookstore. She’s an everyday person. Thankfully, she’s also hilarious. I had a few laugh of loud moments while watching this. Slate, who appears regularly on comedy central shows such as The Kroll Show, has a natural sense of comedic timing which really helped me connect with her character. She just seemed like a person who is struggling to make an impact at 26 years old just like everybody else who is 26 is.

As the film progresses, Slate’s acting chops really start to show. I was surprised. I had heard that she was great in the film and saw that she was nominated for a Spirit award but she still caught me off guard. The tornado that her life ran into required some serious emotional cutbacks and Slate handled it perfectly. She was able to convey a girl who has no idea how she got herself into the situation perfectly. I was impressed.

The film tackles some sensitive subjects with honesty. Abortion isn’t a very widely used subject for film, especially comedies, but Obvious Child was able to take it on without getting too heavy, but also not insulting the situation with humor. I’m the type of person that cracks jokes at funerals and is laughing while being taken to the ER. I always have been. I use humor as a defense mechanism when things are too serious to handle, at least in public. When I’m alone or with family, the true feelings come out, and they did in this film. Those scenes were touching.

The supporting cast was good, but this is really Slate’s show. She didn’t carry the film because I think it was a very well written and directed movie, but I don’t think it would have been the same without her. The film is currently streaming on Amazon Instant and I’d totally recommend it.

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I usually agree with you so much Exo but your point on realism is essentially the opposite of my view. I don't think realism is ever important in film, no matter the genre.
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I usually agree with you so much Exo but your point on realism is essentially the opposite of my view. I don't think realism is ever important in film, no matter the genre.
I was generally talking about romantic comedies. If the conversations seem mechanical and obviously scripted I can't like it. The Notebook was the worst offender. It's not like I'm looking for realism in sci-fi.
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