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Old 08-18-2016, 01:02 AM   #17461 (permalink)
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No I know that. It showed up in my post unannounced like a little bitch.
Oh.... it wants you to try it?
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:02 AM   #17462 (permalink)
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Oh.... it wants you to try it?
Well...Got nothing better to do with my night.
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:04 AM   #17463 (permalink)
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Well...Got nothing better to do with my night.
Tell me how it goes. I said I'd rather do that instead of listening to a Kanye West album. I might listen to life of pablo... or do the hot wax thing.
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:06 AM   #17464 (permalink)
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What other pretentious films do you like?
When I say pretentious, I'm really just referring to how it seems a lot of my peers sneer at what I'd simply call movies for grown ups :/
I feel like all my 25-35 something fellow humans care about is sci-fi, comedy, fantasy and superhero movies.
Everything else is pretentious movie snob territory, apparently. At least that's how people's attitude comes across to me.

So here's a few "pretentious" movies that I love:

Polisse
Kriegerin
La Grande Belezza
Much Ado About Nothing
A Late Quartet
Towelhead
Barney's Version
Shame
Eine Frau in Berlin
Citizenfour

I like simple movies too. Big fan of Woody Allen, Ridley Scott and Michael Mann movies.

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Old 08-18-2016, 09:29 AM   #17465 (permalink)
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Yeah well, that just makes the best defences I've read of the movie considerable less persuasive, since they all lean heavily on the book to justify meaningful interpretations.
I love the movie and think it's stupid for people to say that you have to read the book as well for it to be understandable. It's not that cryptic imo.
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I love the movie and think it's stupid for people to say that you have to read the book as well for it to be understandable. It's not that cryptic imo.
The ending gives me nothing.
So... he travels through time and space, sees himself as an old geezer in a fancy room, then there's a floating space baby.
The end.

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I mean, am I just that stupid?
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:03 AM   #17468 (permalink)
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The ending gives me nothing.
So... he travels through time and space, sees himself as an old geezer in a fancy room, then there's a floating space baby.
The end.

??????
The monkey scene showed that the monolith spurred evolutionary advantages. That's him going up to the next level of human evolution.

I've seen 137 art films, I know what I'm talking about.
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The monkey scene showed that the monolith spurred evolutionary advantages.
Ya, and then they buried the other one on the moon because they knew that once man had the technology to find it they'd be ready to move on to the next step of advancement.

Note that I didn't read the book until about 5 years ago. I'd loved the movie since the 70s.

Interesting note. The aspect ratio of the monolith is exactly the same as the movie screens it was first shown on. During the film the monolith sings to the apes and then the astronauts. When they first showed the movie in theaters, at the beginning the screen would be black and they'd play music for a few minutes before the movie started, and then they did it again during the intermission.

Kubrick was replicating the monolith on it's side singing to the audience.
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The monkey scene showed that the monolith spurred evolutionary advantages. That's him going up to the next level of human evolution.

I've seen 137 art films, I know what I'm talking about.
By becoming a fetus in space? He'll be dead in microseconds! How do we know it's the next level? Does the fetus look unlike a homo sapien fetus? I'm either over- or under-thinking it. Seems like a lot of running time to go through for what feels like just about enough material to make a short film. The monolith brings or represents evolution - or the knowledge of man. But... Well... I have a problem with this sort of symbolism. Seems awfully hollow to me. I like literally every single other Kubrick movie, so I feel like I can bitch freely about this one.
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