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Old 09-12-2016, 05:45 PM   #17671 (permalink)
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I'll agree with you on Some Like it Hot but you shut your goddamn whore mouth about Duck Soup.
It's easy to keep your mouth shut during a movie when it's as unfunny as Duck Soup.
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Old 09-12-2016, 05:57 PM   #17672 (permalink)
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That movie is to "Best of" comedies lists what Sgt. Pepper is to Rolling Stone lists: always at the top, and most likely because of fogey critic nostalgia, mindless elitism, and just being too scared to challenge convention.
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You've never been so wrong. In all of the arts there are defining moments in their history where the game is forever changed. And those moments are in no way nostalgia. They are critical links in the chain of the art's history.

There was abstract painting before Picasso and then abstract painting after Picasso.
There was modern classical music before Varese and then modern classical after him.
There was horror writing before Lovecraft and then horror writing after him.
There was electric guitar before Hendrix and then electric guitar after him.
There was pop/rock albums before Pet Sounds and Sgt. Pepper and then...... you get the idea.

Has nothing to do with nostalgia. It has to do with critical turning points in the evolution of a particular art form.

To discount that stuff is just plain stupid.
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:04 PM   #17673 (permalink)
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There was abstract painting before Picasso and then abstract painting after Picasso.
Picasso wasn't an abstract artist.
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:10 PM   #17674 (permalink)
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:12 PM   #17675 (permalink)
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Picasso wasn't an abstract artist.
That's just total bull****. He was many things including an abstract painter and artist.

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Old 09-12-2016, 06:12 PM   #17676 (permalink)
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Re: Sgt. Pepper's

You've never been so wrong. In all of the arts there are defining moments in their history where the game is forever changed. And those moments are in no way nostalgia. They are critical links in the chain of the art's history.

There was abstract painting before Picasso and then abstract painting after Picasso.
There was modern classical music before Varese and then modern classical after him.
There was horror writing before Lovecraft and then horror writing after him.
There was electric guitar before Hendrix and then electric guitar after him.
There was pop/rock albums before Pet Sounds and Sgt. Pepper and then...... you get the idea.

Has nothing to do with nostalgia. It has to do with critical turning points in the evolution of a particular art form.

To discount that stuff is just plain stupid.
Either you copy/pasted that or you've been repeating it for years to the point where you can trot it out at a moment's notice. Either way it doesn't mean that Sgt. Pepper necessarily deserves all the mouths that suck on it.

And I never said anything about how good it was either. Just that Rolling Stone magazine can't talk with the Beatles dicks shoved so far down their throat.
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Either you copy/pasted that or you've been repeating it for years to the point where you can trot it out at a moment's notice.
Off the top of my head. Main point being the praise isn't simply old people nostalgia.

Half a century ago, using archaic recording and studio technology, those dudes came up with **** like this?





When was the last time you really listened to this stuff?
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Old 09-12-2016, 06:30 PM   #17678 (permalink)
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That's just total bull****. He was many things including an abstract painter and artist.

This is called Cubism. Abstract art is a separate thing, Picasso is too grounded in reality to be considered an abstract artist.
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This is called Cubism. Abstract art is a separate thing, Picasso is too grounded in reality to be considered an abstract artist.
Again, bull****.

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Surrealism

Franz Cline would have been a better example.
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