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Old 05-09-2020, 06:27 PM   #23491 (permalink)
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anyone else see this and have an opinion
I felt the same as you. I couldnt care less about superhero movies in general, so I had low expectations to start. It was both better and worse than what I thought it would be. I think Joaquin is good.
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Old 05-09-2020, 07:29 PM   #23492 (permalink)
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well then I had a different perspective only watching because I like seeing the different takes on superhero mythology

I thought this was really well done as portraying a Joker I could believe, but not as good as I thought in being subtle social commentary
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Old 05-09-2020, 07:30 PM   #23493 (permalink)
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It's about as subtle as a freight train lol
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I thought this was really well done as portraying a Joker I could believe
Presumably cause you can't believe in the Joker in general cause the character never touched this. I mean if there's one character trait the the Joker has retained in all his installments whether it be the 60s Adam West show, the 80s movie, the animated series, the comics, or The Dark Knight, it's a confidence, a self-possession, a narcissistic belief in himself that transcends whatever happens to be happening around him. And as great as Joaquin Phoenix was, he never gave me even a glimmer of that madcap poise. Nothing like this.

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It's about as subtle as a freight train lol
particularly the final TV scene was godawful

you got all but exactly a direct turn to the camera and exposition
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Presumably cause you can't believe in the Joker in general cause the character never touched this. I mean if there's one character trait the the Joker has retained in all his installments whether it be the 60s Adam West show, the 80s movie, the animated series, the comics, or The Dark Knight, it's a confidence, a self-possession, a narcissistic belief in himself that transcends whatever happens to be happening around him. And as great as Joaquin Phoenix was, he never gave me even a glimmer of that madcap poise. Nothing like this.

I've seen this animated film

I just like the idea, of asking "what if this were really a person" similar to Watchmen
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The speech sucked but the murder was pretty tight
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I saw it coming so it was just like eh

a lot of **** also plain didn't make sense, like how in da fuq would he be able to walk up on Bruce at the gate like that

but then we can assume that up to all the events didn't even happen, yet the film still entertains and gets the point across, so I didn't hate it for that
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It finally leaked a couple weeks ago. It's like Come and See, but more depraved. It differs from the book, combining parts and characters, and it's not as graphic thankfully as I was dreading seeing parts of the book put to film. I still wouldn't recommend this to anyone who doesn't want to see certain types of violence.
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I saw it coming so it was just like eh

a lot of **** also plain didn't make sense, like how in da fuq would he be able to walk up on Bruce at the gate like that

but then we can assume that up to all the events didn't even happen, yet the film still entertains and gets the point across, so I didn't hate it for that
Yeah but he also supposedly banged the neighbor lady.

I think it's more of an unreliable narrator situation.
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