Jaws is not Spielberg's fault. Nor is Star Wars and Lucas. On paper, both should have failed miserably because of the corny story lines and ridiculous low budget SFX.

No-one involved in those movie could have forseen what was going to happen. They blew up beyond belief because they filled a void.

Accept it or not, there's millions of people who go to the movies for a cheap popcorn escape from their daily 24/7 grind.

The fact that they were released in the heat of the summer was not planned either. Just a happy coincedence.

The massive success of the super hyped "Summer Blockbusters" since, has not impeded amazing higher brow cinema in the least. We talk about those types of movies all the time here.

1975
Jaws: One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, Dog Day Afternoon.

1976
Rocky: Taxi Driver, The Man who Fell to Earth

1977
Star Wars: Eraserhead, The Kentucky Fried Movie

And on and on and on.......

Nah they ruined the film industry on purpose and every modern movie sucks because of them and everyone who disagrees with me is a big doo doo head.

Stopped reading halfway through tbh.

Thank you for this review. I bet I'm going to enjoy the **** out of it later. Anytime you pan a movie it is usually really good.

Time for Ryan Gosling to take a sabbatical. Dude's been in 16 movies in the last 7 years. Great for the wallet but oversaturation is setting in.

Nice one, TH.

shut your whore mouth. if every movie had ryan gosling in it every movie would be at least 20% more enjoyable. it’s scientifically proven.

Glad to be of help.
Should I write you a list of terrible movies?

Just got back from seeing Blade Runner. It's been years since I've been to a theater that I can recall, and I tried not to get my hopes up because I seldom enjoy contemporary cinema.

I tried to put aside the explosions, the overdone CGI, the unnecessary fight scenes, and the action movie one-liners, but after that there wasn't much film left to enjoy.

That's all right though, I didn't go to see the film. I was more interested in how Hans Zimmer would handle it. It was three hours of sawtooth waveforms. Highly dramatic and cinematic. There's no such thing as bad Zimmer but I'll stick to the original Esper Retirement Edition for my soundtrack needs.

Doesn't sound like it's getting an easy ride. I think some movies are better just left alone as the classics they are. Of course, if there's folding green in it...

Source Code for the second time. Love everything about this flick. Oh, and....

Jake Gyllenhaal > Ryan Gosling

*but not by much*

Yes please, I will take a list of what you consider terrible.

CGI wasn't overdone in the Blade Runner 2049. It was so well done that it wasn't distracting at all. They merged practical effects with it seemlessly. I enjoyed it for the most part even though they glossed over a few themes they could have dug deeper into. With that long run time style ruled out over substance and it would have stretched out the movie even more. I need to watch it again but would rather do it at home so I can pause it and see the little easter eggs.

3:10 to Yuma.

With each passing decade it gets harder and harder to pull off a western for mass audiences. This the best since Unforgiven. Hands down.

Bale and Crowe are superb, as are the rest of the supporting cast. Exceptionally made and simply a fun, fun, fun movie watch.

I don't even remember what I said in that little rant about the movie, but I'm sure my thoughts could have been better expressed. If I saw the movie again I could try to give a more level headed opinion on it, but that isn't going to happen for a good, long while yet.

Here's a short, random list of movies that I hate and movies that - like Blade Runner 2049 - just fell very, very short of being a good movie despite great critical and/or audience reception:

-All Christopher Nolan movies, except Interstallar, which I actually like.
-Guardians of the Galaxy
-The Avengers
-the two first Iron Man movies (didn't bother with the 3rd)
-any Shyamalan movie
-any Spielberg movie from the 90's and above. Except Jurassic Park and Catch Me If You Can. Those were good.
-any Villeneuve movie that I've seen: Sicario, Incendies, Blade Runner 2049 of course
-Fight Club, The Social Network, Seven, Gone Girl (all bad movies from the same talented director. I forgive him since he made Zodiac.)
-the Silent Hill movie was terrible. The sequel even worse.
-all Resident Evil movies are complete ****. Even the first one.
-Battle Los Angeles
-Terminator 3 and Terminator Salvation. Didn't watch the newest one because I've learned my lesson.
-both Alien vs Predator movies
-Cubic (aka Equilibrium) and Ultraviolet. Two stylish but dumb action sci-fi movies by the same incompetent director.
-Predator 1 and 2

And as a bonus, a random few action/entertainment/super hero/fantasy/etc. movies that I enjoy, just so you don't accuse me of being a snob or something. Consider this a list of movies NOT to watch then?:

-Sucker Punch
-Reign of fire
-Shoot 'Em Up
-Spring Breakers
-Watchmen
-Xmen 1, 2, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse
-Man of Steel, Batman v Superman
-the Brian De Palma movie Passion. Trashy but fun.
-Lemony Snicket's a Series of Unfortunate Events
-Snow White & the Huntsman
-Maleficent
-The Craft
-The Golden Compass

Seriously, does anyone even like Predator 2?

I love Predator 2.

The only things I remember about it is how bored I was, how silly the voodoo subplot was and how extremely sweaty Bill Paxton looked in every scene he was in.

I don't remember anything about the Xmen movies except that retarded line about lightning and toads, so fair enough.

That was a pretty retarded moment, I'm not denying that :laughing:

Lol @ knocking one movie for being "stylish but dumb" then turning around and praising Sucker Punch.

Every movie is different, so there's always going to be something I can like about one of them. It's not like they're the same thing. I like Sucker Punch for being simply fun, charming, visually creative. The story is exceedingly simple, the dumb twist ending not withstanding, and I simply like the characters and care that they make it.

The difference between Sucker Punch and those two Kurt Vimmer movies is obviously that I thought the latter was a dull slog to sit through. Have you seen them? They're completely mechanical and soulless.

I haven't, but I also feel that way about Sucker Punch which I have seen.

Same. I could give a **** what the movie was trying to do beyond being a bunch of fun action scenes.

It's pretty funny that our tastes in movies are exact opposites. I do like about half of that list that I shouldnt but ugh Reign of Fire. I went to the theater to see that and felt like asking for my money back. Sucker Punch and Springbreakers I have watched an embarrassing amount of times. From Man of Steel down, I haven't seen or straight up don't like with the exceptions of BvS and The Craft. The Craft is a cult classic.

I disagree with you on the first Silent Hill movie being terrible. The second one, sure I get that. One Shyamalan movie that I have oddly watched so many times is Devil. Everytime I see it randomly playing on a movie channel. I watch it.

What's your beef with Seven?

It eight nine.

Not quite exact opposite then, since we do have some common ground after all.

Reign of Fire is a silly movie that takes itself way too seriously, but I feel like it brings its premise to life pretty efficinetly and that the two main characters work well in an over the top sort of way. The worst thing about the movie to me is the incomprehensible airborne action scenes where they try to catch dragons with a net or something.

Devil is one of the two Shyamalan movies I haven't watched, so who knows if I'd like it too. I have my doubts.

Seven is a well made movie I suppose, but it's so balls to the walls determined to be as grim as humanly possible that it shoots well past the sort of thing I like to get out of a movie. I'm generally not a horror movie fan at all, so that places Seven in highly unappealing territory for me. If it was less disgusting and just played more like a regular crime movie, I'd perhaps like it more.

lol what do you expect from a murder scene? Pre-packaged semen samples and an embalmed corpse?

I think The Village was a good film for the premise alone.

Oh come on, you know there's more to the presentation of a scene in a movie than what it plainly depicts. Seven has a deliberately over the top, unsettling, revolting style of presentation. Set composition, camera work, lighting, color filtering, sound design, musical cues and more all feed into this.

Generally speaking, how would you describe a real-life murder scene? How about a serial killer's murder scene?

I have seen quite a few movies featuring various murder scenes/serial killer murder scenes, and none of them had the same style of presentation that Seven does. Seven is over the top and clearly revels in the horror of these rather creative murders. No other similar type of movie I can remember had the same brazen approach to putting grotesqueries on diplay.

Of course homicide is ugly, but there's a difference between a movie being about something and rubbing my nose in it.

What is it with the former Viking countries and being wuss bags?

Do you enjoy looking at gruesome murder scenes? I don't. Why would I?

There are plenty, but Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer was a direct influence imo.

The atmosphere should match the content, and I think it did that successfully as hell. Do you consider it to be unrealistic?

Also I highly value art that can evoke a strong emotional response and disgust counts. I don't ever want to watch something like Irreversible again, but I can't deny that it's a great piece of filmmaking since it can cut so deep.

I also think you just gotta give less power to your expectations homie.

That's all to drive home just how twisted and demented (and brilliant) John Doe is. Imagine you're a detective working in a big city and you're completely hardened and mostly desensitized to all of the crime and violence you have to deal with on a daily basis, to the point it's pretty much become your norm.

And then Doe comes along and turns everything you thought you knew about crime, motives, violence, pre-meditation, and depravity, and turns everything inside out and upside down.

Se7en is equal parts about Doe and his master plan and Mills and Somerset slowly coming to terms with an evil that is almost beyond comprehension.

:Dd

Let me put it this way: To me, Zodiac is the matured version of Seven. Gone is the focus on the gruesomeness, replaced by more of a focus on the characters, with only the necessary amount of screen time devoted to oh how horrible the murders are. After a point I just feel like "yes, I get get it. They're dead and the killer is sick. Move on please". That's what Zodiac does; telling a more interesting story by focusing on the parts that matter. To me, Seven is like some kind of horrific amusement park ride. "Come and see the amazing horrorible murders! Isn't that something?!" I'm being a bit reductionist, but I find that it's putting the weight too much on the wrong foot.

Say what? This requires an explanation.

That's like the exact themes of No Country For Old Men, which is a much better movie in my eyes.