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Dr.Seussicide 03-04-2011 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1013627)
lol just because I said Bring it on 4 was okay doesn't mean I think it deserves an Oscar

I gave a very specific reason for why I hate Aronofsky....maybe you skipped over reading that.

Obsessing with obsession? That doesn't take away from his directing however. Plus, every director has a specific way that they direct that their viewers can identify and think, oh yes, this is definitely Christopher Nolan film, etc.

ThePhanastasio 03-04-2011 07:02 PM

All of this above is a completely pointless argument. Taste is 100% subjective. If someone doesn't like Aronofsky, that does not imply that they have poor taste. That merely implies that their tastes don't align with yours.

People can and will like what they want to like. That's their prerogative.

djchameleon 03-04-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 1013632)
Obsessing with obsession? That doesn't take away from his directing however. Plus, every director has a specific way that they direct that their viewers can identify and think, oh yes, this is definitely Christopher Nolan film, etc.

I don't care about his directing because his films don't interest me and if you think I have poor tastes because I don't like your favorite director then so be it.....it's just one pretentious director.

Dr.Seussicide 03-04-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1013635)
All of this above is a completely pointless argument. Taste is 100% subjective. If someone doesn't like Aronofsky, that does not imply that they have poor taste. That merely implies that their tastes don't align with yours.

People can and will like what they want to like. That's their prerogative.

This is a copout. Taste is subjective within reasonable limits.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1013636)
I don't care about his directing because his films don't interest me and if you think I have poor tastes because I don't like your favorite director then so be it.....it's just one pretentious director.

He's not my favourite director, and like I said, my opinion isn't based on just this one post, that would be awfully shallow of me. But I don't want to argue with you into believing he's good director or anything, I just wanted to get that sentiment off my chest is all.

djchameleon 03-04-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 1013640)

He's not my favourite director, and like I said, my opinion isn't based on just this one post, that would be awfully shallow of me. But I don't want to argue with you into believing he's good director or anything, I just wanted to get that sentiment off my chest is all.

that's fine you can speak your opinion.....and I didn't really see this as an argument but w/e.

If I'm not interested in a certain movie/director there is nothing that you can say to make me suddenly like it and that goes for everything in life with people in general.

That's why debates are so silly because when people are stuck in their ways and only agree with their side/opinion there is nothing that can be said by the opponent to change their mind about said issue.

jackhammer 03-04-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1013348)
fixed.

I'm going around fixing so many things around here. I should name myself The Fixer.

A 'hack' is someone brought into a film to pick up the missing pieces or is a director for hire that the studio can rely on to do what they are told and produce a film to comply with their commercial criteria.

If you really think that Aronofsky is a hack then you have a very poor understanding of movies in general.

If you don't like his films then that is fair enough but he is far from a hack and each film he has done has a tonality distinctly different from his last.

This is not about one viewers opinion differing to another's either.

A genuine film fan should appreciate a director that constantly challenges the status quo and admire them for it. Liking their films is immaterial.

I am not a big fan of Kubrick, Hartley or Tarantino but I appreciate their films and look beyond my dislike to watch their films without comparing them to genuine 'hack' films that only trade in box office ratio numbers.

djchameleon 03-04-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1013649)
A 'hack' is someone brought into a film to pick up the missing pieces or is a director for hire that the studio can rely on to do what they are told and produce a film to comply with their commercial criteria.

If you really think that Aronofsky is a hack then you have a very poor understanding of movies in general.

If you don't like his films then that is fair enough but he is far from a hack and each film he has done has a tonality distinctly different from his last.

This is not about one viewers opinion differing to another's either.

A genuine film fan should appreciate a director that constantly challenges the status quo and admire them for it. Liking their films is immaterial.

I am not a big fan of Kubrick, Hartley or Tarantino but I appreciate their films and look beyond my dislike to watch their films without comparing them to genuine 'hack' films that only trade in box office ratio numbers.

I felt like calling him a "hack" because I don't like his films even though I have watched all of his films at least once. They just do nothing for me. I don't care for his directing style or anything of that nature.

chipper 03-04-2011 08:12 PM

i watched all Oscar nominated films ... i have a personal bias to The Social Network but i have to admit The King's Speech deserves the Best Picture trophy

Bulldog 03-05-2011 07:36 PM

http://www.covershut.com/covers/Dayb...over-27665.jpg

One I'd wanted to see for quite some time. A really interesting and inventive sci-fi/supernatural premise, and I was actually quite impressed by it...at least 'til the last half hour or so.

Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention at the time, but...
Spoiler for go figure:
...how the fuck did Willem Dafoe and Ethan Hawke not bleed to death/kick the bucket themselves in supplying the whole vampire race with whatever that cure was? Seeing as they were 'human' at the time and all...

jackhammer 03-05-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1013657)
I felt like calling him a "hack" because I don't like his films even though I have watched all of his films at least once. They just do nothing for me. I don't care for his directing style or anything of that nature.

Sorry. I did come across like an elitist prick here. Your opinion is as valid as the next person. Apologies.

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Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 1013979)
http://www.covershut.com/covers/Dayb...over-27665.jpg

One I'd wanted to see for quite some time. A really interesting and inventive sci-fi/supernatural premise, and I was actually quite impressed by it...at least 'til the last half hour or so.

Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention at the time, but...
Spoiler for go figure:
...how the fuck did Willem Dafoe and Ethan Hawke not bleed to death/kick the bucket themselves in supplying the whole vampire race with whatever that cure was? Seeing as they were 'human' at the time and all...

An interesting film with some great ideas not fully realised like you said but it is one of the better Vampire films I have seen for a while.


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