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Paedantic Basterd 11-12-2011 11:33 AM

Didn't the fifth season finale
Spoiler for !?:
Have something to do with aliens?


I stopped watching after season 4. I was asked to suspend too much disbelief, and I realized how formulaic it was and I couldn't bear the disappointment.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 11-12-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1118694)
Didn't the fifth season finale
Spoiler for !?:
Have something to do with aliens?


I stopped watching after season 4. I was asked to suspend too much disbelief, and I realized how formulaic it was and I couldn't bear the disappointment.

Whoever told you the spoiled quote is full of ****. That's the books, not the show.

I don't know, I think season 4 was ingenious, and season 5 was dull but had some moments(The Stan Liddy Character, Dexter having to forge a crime scene to look like a sick fetish snuff game). This season doesn't even have the moments.

Stephen 11-12-2011 05:52 PM

Season 6 has been pretty slow. Six eps in and still waiting for it to kick in. Even the doomsday arc has been pretty dull.

Burning Down 11-12-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 1118837)
Season 6 has been pretty slow. Six eps in and still waiting for it to kick in. Even the doomsday arc has been pretty dull.

Yeah, I'm not terribly impressed with it either. Things should have started picking up like 3 eps ago. Oh well.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 11-12-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1118862)
Yeah, I'm not terribly impressed with it either. Things should have started picking up like 3 eps ago. Oh well.

Well, He's now going to talk to his brother which is going to very clearly symbolize his 'evil side'...

It's really a shame. I think they dropped the ball with this season. I mean, they're going to have to pull out ****ing fireworks now. It's already been written and filmed, so I'm guessing there won't be much.

Honestly, what ever happened to that teenager he let go in season one? If each season is a year, and they presume him at least 13-17, then he's 17-20 years old now. I think, honestly, to have a copycat killer who adores Dexter, and gets to all of his kills before him would make a more compelling villian than 'Hey, I'm an evil preacher. Muahaha!'.

Then again, it could be like Season 3 which was a disaster that swung back on track in the final few episodes.

Ferrari5180 11-30-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 1118837)
Season 6 has been pretty slow. Six eps in and still waiting for it to kick in. Even the doomsday arc has been pretty dull.

Season 6 has been slow indeed. I think the writers are trying to make the show epic and are not doing a great job at it. They should just relax and make Dexter be, well Dexter. This feeling garbage is not working for me, at least not when its jumping all over the place.

hawkjones 12-01-2011 03:44 AM

I've watched all the season of this show but the second season was soooo boring for mine point of view...& I think Dexter is the king of the all USA TV shows....Too good show ever...:finger:

Goofle 12-01-2011 08:46 AM

Obviously nowhere near one of the best TV Shows ever, but pretty decent. Getting bored and CBA downloading the newest season.

Burning Down 12-01-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 1118837)
Season 6 has been pretty slow. Six eps in and still waiting for it to kick in. Even the doomsday arc has been pretty dull.

It's actually getting interesting now, I must say. Have you seen the latest episode (November 27th)?

Stephen 12-01-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1126572)
It's actually getting interesting now, I must say. Have you seen the latest episode (November 27th)?

No haven't watched that ep yet. Probably see it tonight.

Stephen 12-03-2011 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1126572)
It's actually getting interesting now, I must say. Have you seen the latest episode (November 27th)?

Ok that wasn't a bad twist. Bit of a nod to the classics really.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-08-2011 03:25 AM

Saw the last few episodes, and I would say they're thoroughly entertaining, but entirely unfufilling.

I think they really classed up things by composing some new music, and treating the camerawork with more detail. The last few episodes almost feel like a mini-movie. Breaching on dramatic areas that seemed to have been forgotten from seasons 2-5. It's nice to see a lot of the feel of the first season return in these past couple of episodes. Plus, they're 95% Dexter, and 5% boring psuedo-"procedural cop drama"/soap opera stuff that's been infecting this season badly.

Yet, I somehow feel it doesn't disguise the fact the plot itself is still kind of hollow. I mean, almost everyone called the twist episodes back. I predict there will be a huge conclusion to this season, but not enough to save it, in my books.

Still though, I've been reading that this may be the last season of Dexter. Maybe this is all for the best. I only wish, though, they could have ended it with Season Four as the cliffhanger would have been a fantastic way for the show to bow out.

Stephen 12-11-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1129565)
Still though, I've been reading that this may be the last season of Dexter. Maybe this is all for the best.

According to Wikipedia they have signed for another two seasons.


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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1129565)
I only wish, though, they could have ended it with Season Four as the cliffhanger would have been a fantastic way for the show to bow out.

I didn't mind the whole Lumen story arc of season 5.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-11-2011 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 1131211)
I didn't mind the whole Lumen story arc of season 5.

Tons of people did, I just thought it was natural writing. Season 5 wasn't bad, I think it was just a natural step after season 4.

6 has made no sense to me. It's like, there hasn't been a single thing they've done logical. Albeit, last couple episodes were nice mindless entertainment.

If it does go on two more seasons, they've got to pull their **** together.

Goofle 12-11-2011 05:49 PM

Doesn't compare to The Wire.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-11-2011 06:23 PM

The Wire was brilliant. Plus, the Wire knew what it was good at, and kept the focus on it.

Stephen 12-12-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1131225)
6 has made no sense to me. It's like, there hasn't been a single thing they've done logical. Albeit, last couple episodes were nice mindless entertainment.

Yeah it's a bit like they had the brain storm and came up with a few ideas but they never went from there to actually developing the story lines into something more than the basic story board.

aadilthakur90 12-12-2011 11:59 PM

Well Dexter is very entertaining and nice TV show. I regular watch this show with my friends. this week I will finish season four and star season five. I have seen many episodes of this show.

crash_override 12-20-2011 10:28 PM

Wow, what a finale, eh?

Spoiler for "***EPIC SPOILER ALERT***:

Ol' Dexter finally getting caught by his cop sister.

Also, am I the only one who finds it weird that this sexual tension building between Deb and Dex is developing now? Seems odd, especially since Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter were recently divorced in real life... Ironic script-writing maybe? Who knows, can't wait to see what Season 7 has in store, the writers have a lot to answer for after that...


edit: Spoiler tags, solved.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-20-2011 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1135228)
***EPIC SPOILER ALERT***

Wow, what a finale, eh?

Spoiler for yes, these are spoilers:
I found it just a very odd choice in general(Debra's crush on Dexter). They hinted at it in the first two episodes, but seemed to have dropped it. (I think in the first scene they're talking and there's somebody in the background holding a donut with a banana through it).

I think the point was that that Debra arrived thinking she had a secret to unload while discovering Dexter's ultimate secret. To me, it's just excessive because... where can you go with it? They're going to play it deadpan as to not ruin the characters, which I imagine just ending in a train wreck.

However, if they begin the next season at the EXACT moment of the discovery. Play down Debra's crush, and whatnot. They can lead to sort of a tense allyship that ends in a manhunt of Dexter that could wrap up the series over the next few seasons. Or something, cause they've DEFINITELY gotta find a way to wrap this thing up.

crash_override 12-20-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1135230)
Spoiler for yes, these are spoilers:
I found it just a very odd choice in general(Debra's crush on Dexter). They hinted at it in the first two episodes, but seemed to have dropped it. (I think in the first scene they're talking and there's somebody in the background holding a donut with a banana through it).

I think the point was that that Debra arrived thinking she had a secret to unload while discovering Dexter's ultimate secret. To me, it's just excessive because... where can you go with it? They're going to play it deadpan as to not ruin the characters, which I imagine just ending in a train wreck.

However, if they begin the next season at the EXACT moment of the discovery. Play down Debra's crush, and whatnot. They can lead to sort of a tense allyship that ends in a manhunt of Dexter that could wrap up the series over the next few seasons. Or something, cause they've DEFINITELY gotta find a way to wrap this thing up.

Speaking of subtle hints in this season of Dexter, I happened to notice that in one episode Dexter was using a Sabre printer to print off some documents, an Homage to The Office perhaps?

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-21-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 1135241)
Speaking of subtle hints in this season of Dexter, I happened to notice that in one episode Dexter was using a Sabre printer to print off some documents, an Homage to The Office perhaps?

Perhaps... Albeit, that's not as typical as somebody sitting, and talking, with a banana inside a donut in their hand in the background.

Stephen 12-23-2011 06:59 AM

Probably give her a dose of animal tranqs and pretend like nothing happened. Either that or the old blow to the head amnesia.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-23-2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 1136097)
Probably give her a dose of animal tranqs and pretend like nothing happened. Either that or the old blow to the head amnesia.

Spoiler for spoilers:
If either of these things happened, especially the second, I would declare Dexter the worst show on television.

Dexter may pride it's often humorous quick fix solutions to stories, but if they tried that with this one, it'd definitely kill the show. They wrote Debra finding Dexter killing Travis, they're going to have to live up to it.

Which, is why it's such a good thing, because they're going to have to prove their salt as writers.

Honestly, if I was writing it, I'd have Debra completely flip out, and try to arrest Dexter. Dexter coerces her into believing that this was his first kill, and talks her out of arresting him. After all, she let Matthews go, why would she arrest her own brother? Maybe even Dexter pulling out sappy melodrama talking about his friend Brother Sam dying, and more importantly the stress of Rita dying(Which is strangely not on his mind at all whatsoever anymore).

As the season goes on, Debra is revealed to new evidence that forces her to reopen the bay harbor butcher case. Finding that Doakes was completely innocent. Possibly something to do with Lily dying in Paris from the second season. While this happens, Masuka's nerdy assistant gradually finds Dexter out more, and more, becoming his admirer/worshiper(as they seem to obviously be doing).

Of course, all the while, Dexter is distracted by another serial killer of some variety. Debra eventually, however, figures out that Dexter was the Bay Harbor butcher, runs into a moral crises, finally deciding to arrest her own brother.

The season ends with Dexter being taken to jail, Social services taking away Harrison. But escaping with the aid of Masuka's obsessed assistant. Leaving for one final season where Dexter is on the wrong side of the law. Capping off the show with him retrieving Harrison, Leaving in incognito with his son, apologizing to his sister, and such.

I doubt that will happen, though. I'd be sorely shocked if they didn't immediately milk the concept of Dexter unveiling his 'dark secret' in a very Machiavellian fashion right off the bat. Still, doesn't mean they couldn't write their way out of it. I'm hoping they do, as if they do, they have some promising television ahead.

Whatever they do, they have to set Harrison between the law, and Dexter. I don't think they can have him kill Debra. Maybe somebody else kills Debra to save Dexter against his wishes, or something of that variety.

Burning Down 12-23-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1136177)
Spoiler for spoilers:
If either of these things happened, especially the second, I would declare Dexter the worst show on television.

Dexter may pride it's often humorous quick fix solutions to stories, but if they tried that with this one, it'd definitely kill the show. They wrote Debra finding Dexter killing Travis, they're going to have to live up to it.

Which, is why it's such a good thing, because they're going to have to prove their salt as writers.

Honestly, if I was writing it, I'd have Debra completely flip out, and try to arrest Dexter. Dexter coerces her into believing that this was his first kill, and talks her out of arresting him. After all, she let Matthews go, why would she arrest her own brother? Maybe even Dexter pulling out sappy melodrama talking about his friend Brother Sam dying, and more importantly the stress of Rita dying(Which is strangely not on his mind at all whatsoever anymore).

As the season goes on, Debra is revealed to new evidence that forces her to reopen the bay harbor butcher case. Finding that Doakes was completely innocent. Possibly something to do with Lily dying in Paris from the second season. While this happens, Masuka's nerdy assistant gradually finds Dexter out more, and more, becoming his admirer/worshiper(as they seem to obviously be doing).

Of course, all the while, Dexter is distracted by another serial killer of some variety. Debra eventually, however, figures out that Dexter was the Bay Harbor butcher, runs into a moral crises, finally deciding to arrest her own brother.

The season ends with Dexter being taken to jail, Social services taking away Harrison. But escaping with the aid of Masuka's obsessed assistant. Leaving for one final season where Dexter is on the wrong side of the law. Capping off the show with him retrieving Harrison, Leaving in incognito with his son, apologizing to his sister, and such.

I doubt that will happen, though. I'd be sorely shocked if they didn't immediately milk the concept of Dexter unveiling his 'dark secret' in a very Machiavellian fashion right off the bat. Still, doesn't mean they couldn't write their way out of it. I'm hoping they do, as if they do, they have some promising television ahead.

Whatever they do, they have to set Harrison between the law, and Dexter. I don't think they can have him kill Debra. Maybe somebody else kills Debra to save Dexter against his wishes, or something of that variety.

I think that's a good theory, but unlikely to happen. Here's what I think:

Spoiler for a theory:
So we know that Debra caught Dexter killing Travis. He could very well convince her that it was his first kill, but Debra's not exactly stupid. She's very good at piecing things together (a recent example being her discovery of Matthews and the dead prostitute), and the fact that she's now seen how Dexter's kill room is set up (with all the plastic, tape, knives specifically organized on another table), her first thought could be that this is the work of an experienced killer. Debra knows that first time killers are usually very sloppy with their work, but someone who's been killing for a while has developed an efficient MO to try and cover their tracks.

Now we know that she's actually IN LOVE with Dexter, and that will play a key role in whether or not she arrests him. Debra is going to have an enormous complex to deal with now that LaGuerta has also advised her to make her job the central part of her life so she will be in control. Let's assume that Debra takes LaGuerta's advice. If she really wants to do well at this job, that means putting emotions on the back burner. Debra will have to treat Dexter like every other criminal and arrest him; because she know that if she lets him slide, she'll become an emotional wreck as her discovery will eat away at her.

However, there is a big possibility that this was all Dexter's dream - he dreamt it, and Travis Marshall is still out there because Dexter never killed him. That's one way (or maybe the only way) in which the shows writers can move away from the idea that Debra caught him.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 12-23-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1136250)
I think that's a good theory, but unlikely to happen. Here's what I think:

Spoiler for a theory:
So we know that Debra caught Dexter killing Travis. He could very well convince her that it was his first kill, but Debra's not exactly stupid. She's very good at piecing things together (a recent example being her discovery of Matthews and the dead prostitute), and the fact that she's now seen how Dexter's kill room is set up (with all the plastic, tape, knives specifically organized on another table), her first thought could be that this is the work of an experienced killer. Debra knows that first time killers are usually very sloppy with their work, but someone who's been killing for a while has developed an efficient MO to try and cover their tracks.

Now we know that she's actually IN LOVE with Dexter, and that will play a key role in whether or not she arrests him. Debra is going to have an enormous complex to deal with now that LaGuerta has also advised her to make her job the central part of her life so she will be in control. Let's assume that Debra takes LaGuerta's advice. If she really wants to do well at this job, that means putting emotions on the back burner. Debra will have to treat Dexter like every other criminal and arrest him; because she know that if she lets him slide, she'll become an emotional wreck as her discovery will eat away at her.

However, there is a big possibility that this was all Dexter's dream - he dreamt it, and Travis Marshall is still out there because Dexter never killed him. That's one way (or maybe the only way) in which the shows writers can move away from the idea that Debra caught him.

Spoiler for Spoiler:
The Dream thing is likely. He does shoot himself up with animal tranquilizer, and seemingly show now effect. I wouldn't be completely satisfied with that, however. At least, not to the climax of a season. If it were midseason, or something, I would accept that.

That seems all too possible, though.

Then again, I'm thinking now more in the possibility of Debra finding out. Not immediately arresting him. Something bad happening to her. Finishing off with Dexter saving her somehow. Debra would however have to somehow lose her chief of police position in order for it to keep sane in that case, though.

Unless they're willing to have Debra die early on in the next season. If a third party were to find out, he or she could kill Debra in order to save Dexter. Maybe Masuka's nerdy assistant. Either he's a useless throwaway character, or he's going that way anyway.

Honestly, I hope they decide to use the next couple of seasons to wrap it up. They're better writers than I could imagine being, but they've had to have written themselves into a corner here, and the show might end up choking itself on it's own branches.

Either:

A) They completely destroy the dynamic of the show.

B) They reveal it's a hallucination or something that completely destroys the impact. Making them look afraid to take a risk.

C) Very VERY meticulously carefully plot this thing to work right.

Burning Down 12-23-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1136254)
Spoiler for Spoiler:
The Dream thing is likely. He does shoot himself up with animal tranquilizer, and seemingly show now effect. I wouldn't be completely satisfied with that, however. At least, not to the climax of a season. If it were midseason, or something, I would accept that.

That seems all too possible, though.

Then again, I'm thinking now more in the possibility of Debra finding out. Not immediately arresting him. Something bad happening to her. Finishing off with Dexter saving her somehow. Debra would however have to somehow lose her chief of police position in order for it to keep sane in that case, though.

Unless they're willing to have Debra die early on in the next season. If a third party were to find out, he or she could kill Debra in order to save Dexter. Maybe Masuka's nerdy assistant. Either he's a useless throwaway character, or he's going that way anyway.

Honestly, I hope they decide to use the next couple of seasons to wrap it up. They're better writers than I could imagine being, but they've had to have written themselves into a corner here, and the show might end up choking itself on it's own branches.

Either:

A) They completely destroy the dynamic of the show.

B) They reveal it's a hallucination or something that completely destroys the impact. Making them look afraid to take a risk.

C) Very VERY meticulously carefully plot this thing to work right.

That's probably more likely.

And either way, this plot line might be the point where the show just completely jumps the shark.

Stephen 12-23-2011 05:28 PM

The nerdy assistant is probably the most interesting thread for me at the moment.

klacc 01-24-2012 01:20 PM

Ahhhhh.... I LOVE Dexter!! I don't know why but somehow the first episode caught me attention a lot and ever since I've loved it. Never know what is gonna happen next!

JohnWills 03-20-2012 05:43 AM

I love this show. I have watched five seasons of this show. All episodes are awesome. Now i am going to watch sixth season of this show. Hope this will be interesting.


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Zosofancmr1 03-25-2012 01:18 AM

I am addicted to this show!

ohsen12 03-31-2012 09:47 PM

I used to love Dexter, but found that each season got worse. Seasons 1 and 2 were the best, and then the show added more drama and extenders that the show just does not feel the same. I hope season 7 is better, as the ending to season 6 finally made a leap forward. Let's just hope. Until then, I will have to do with other TV shows.

Noise Wall 04-02-2012 03:33 AM

^ What this guy said, sans the part about season 6 ending because I gave up watching during episode 6. The first season as great, and the second seasons was spectacular. Season three was the first ball drop with a short return to glory with season four, only to return to crap and remain so for some time. Season 6 was really depressing. It has very interesting villains and the other elements were all there, yet the writing was just completely under par.

alangrylls55 04-04-2012 04:56 AM

This show is amazing I only find season 5 on a a little low side but all other seasons are just great and as the news is coming there are still two more season left to come in Dexter

djchameleon 01-07-2013 09:58 PM

The middle of season 7 annoyed me so much. As much as I like Yvonne Strahovski, I didn't like her paired up with Dexter. The best parts of the season were the beginning and the very end showing Deb and Dexter's relationship growing stronger. That's all I will say for now don't want to spoiler too much for others that haven't seen the season finale of the 7th season yet.

Snoopydoopy 01-13-2013 11:30 AM

I still miss doakes

Dulce 07-27-2013 01:25 AM

Dexter fan right here.

djchameleon 07-27-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dulce (Post 1350189)
Dexter fan right here.

What's your favorite season?

Burning Down 07-27-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1350246)
What's your favorite season?

My favourite seasons are 2, with the Bay Harbor Butcher and when Dexter was dating that British girl who was a cray cray bitch, and season 3 with the Trinity Killer.

djchameleon 07-27-2013 08:41 AM

season 3 wasn't the trinity killer. That was four I believe.

Three was with Hector something. the attorney that he took under his wing.

Jimmy Smitts


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