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Old 06-06-2020, 04:32 PM   #1111 (permalink)
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well id have to order it physii

they don't have it on the DC app

is it even a DC property
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Miracleman-1985

I honestly don't know who owns Miracleman. It was originally published by an obscure British company and its legal rights issues kept it out of print for decades until a few years ago. Which is why nobody but obsessives have ever read it.

Oh wait, I guess Marvel owns it. I do seem to remember hearing that the original publisher was a Marvel imprint.
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Old 06-06-2020, 05:28 PM   #1112 (permalink)
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You know Miracleman's weird publication history actually makes it the perfect storm of a superhero deconstruction. Miracleman is called Miracleman because of copyright issues with Marvel Comics. Before that he was called Marvelman. Even while Moore was writing the series it was called Marvelman. And Marvelman was a character from the 50s/60s who Moore was reimagining who was a knockoff of the original Captain Marvel from the 40s who was a knockoff of Superman so blatant that DC sued and won and eventually obtained the rights to and renamed Shazam because by the time they had the rights Marvel Comics had created their own Captain Marvel and I guess a copyright infringement character doesn't have rights to their own name.

So Miracleman is essentially Superman, the basic concept of the superhero, but is also a second cousin knockoff with absolutely no originality to speak of to set him apart from the basic concept of the superhero idea. So a deconstructionist story about him is deconstructing the origin of the idea of the superhero while also having a cartoonish knockoff avatar to express everything that is ridiculous about the idea of the superhero even while the character is essentially an in-story god.
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Old 06-06-2020, 06:19 PM   #1113 (permalink)
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And then you meet Kid Miracleman, Miracelman's former sidekick in all corny ways of what a sidekick can be, and any ideas about friendly metaphors and dispassionately literate ideas go out the window because the most purely evil supervillain ever has upended any notion of this being some cutesy version of a prequel to the idea of deconstructing superheroes.



Oh my god I'm glad I'm rereading Miracleman.
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Old 06-11-2020, 09:55 AM   #1114 (permalink)
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The Ring of the Nibelung by P. Craig Russell is the best epic/fantasy comic ever made. The story of the famous opera on the hands of one of the best illustrators. A must for fans of the genre.
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Old 06-11-2020, 03:31 PM   #1115 (permalink)
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Yes. Yes to this. I often find myself wary of collecting reprinted versions of old school comics for exactly the reasons in this video. They might not even look the worst, and the bright colors can be neat, but it just never looks right. I sense a dark future ahead for me where I spend ungodly amounts of money on original issues of old school comics.

I need to get some of those Teen Titan collections that were reprinted on more old school paper and look like they're probably supposed to look. I think the Alan Moore Swamp Thing reprints might be the same.

@DWV: and check 15:45 of the potential problems with color on comic art.
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Old 06-11-2020, 06:39 PM   #1116 (permalink)
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And then you meet Kid Miracleman, Miracelman's former sidekick in all corny ways of what a sidekick can be, and any ideas about friendly metaphors and dispassionately literate ideas go out the window because the most purely evil supervillain ever has upended any notion of this being some cutesy version of a prequel to the idea of deconstructing superheroes.



Oh my god I'm glad I'm rereading Miracleman.
You don't have a physical copy you could send
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Old 06-11-2020, 06:58 PM   #1117 (permalink)
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Is this not working for you? That site in general is the best resource for reading comics online that I know of.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Miracleman-1985

I do have some of the physical issues but they're modern reprints and per the above post they're not really visually the way to see the series and I'm not actually willing to lend them out anyway. Any physical version of Miracleman is staying with me. It's too obscure and out of print a series for me to take any chances even with bland looking reprints.
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Old 06-18-2020, 02:31 PM   #1119 (permalink)
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Copped original issues of the four issue West Coast Avengers mini-series that got extended into a long running comic. $12 including shipping. I love eBay and am hype for B/C-list superhero nonsense.

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Old 06-18-2020, 02:34 PM   #1120 (permalink)
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Holy **** I just realized that might be Graviton on the covers of the last two issues. What a schmuck. Now hype for C-list villain nonsense as well. Please be Graviton.
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