Expressionist Cinema (French, quote, youtube, Lute)

Sneer · 01-15-2009, 07:38 AM

As in the film yes?

jackhammer · 01-16-2009, 08:46 AM

M, Nosferatu are excellent. I'm a big fan of Sergei Eisenstein too. Strike! is a masterclass in montage editing. I still need to watch Sunrise, it's something of a masterpiece.

Sneer · 01-16-2009, 08:53 AM

Sergei Eisenstein is a top director, Im a big fan of The General Line for the message implicit within it. I wouldnt say he's an expressionist though.

jackhammer · 01-16-2009, 09:10 AM

No he is'nt thats why I mentioned about the editing

On a slightly different note. Did you ever see 'Shadow Of A Vampire' that supposed that Max Shreck (Nosferatu) was a real life vampire? Excellent quirky movie starring Willem Dafoe and john Malkovich.

Sneer · 01-16-2009, 09:17 AM

Sorry overlooked that part, a director who is absolutely incredible for his use of editing is Dzigo Vertov, Man With a Movie Camera is so good.

I've heard of that, didnt Malkovitch play Murnau and Dafoe Shreck?

jackhammer · 01-16-2009, 09:45 AM

Yeah. Eddie Izzard is in it too. Well worth a watch. Dafoe is astonishing. I have never heard of Dzigo Vertov. I will have to dig up some info and get a film on my rental list.

Sneer · 01-16-2009, 09:52 AM

I'll look into that. Definately get Man With a Movie Camera, theres no scenario, no acting, no props - its a complete subversion of the conventions of cinema. Its literally him filming city life in the USSR, Odense i think, but he edits it in such a way to convey all this hidden meanings and facts of life you would not notice in quotidian circumstances You could say it's a realisat movie shot in a surrealist aesthetic

jackhammer · 01-16-2009, 09:56 AM

It definitely sounds intriguing. I hope that you have seen this too: Roma, città aperta (1945). Another sublime masterpiece. So much good European cinema. it's just a case of digging! Are you studying film at Uni? As you seem very knowledgeable. My knowledge is just life knowledge u know?

Sneer · 01-16-2009, 10:03 AM

I havent, thats another one to hunt out! I do yeah, well, its a sub-topic. Plus im generally in love with French and German cinema. Thats well good, not enough people know or enjoy silent film, some of it is incredible. Even Le Voyage dans la lune is great, and that was made in 1902!

jackhammer · 01-16-2009, 10:06 AM

What's your favourite French Film? A lot of people cite 'Breathless' as the king of cool but I much prefer 'Bob Le Flambeur' which was 5 years earlier. That film is so cool. Rififfi too! so many films not enough time!

01-15-2009, 07:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	As in the film yes? __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-16-2009, 08:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	M, Nosferatu are excellent. I'm a big fan of Sergei Eisenstein too. Strike! is a masterclass in montage editing. I still need to watch Sunrise, it's something of a masterpiece. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-16-2009, 08:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Sergei Eisenstein is a top director, Im a big fan of The General Line for the message implicit within it. I wouldnt say he's an expressionist though. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-16-2009, 09:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	No he is'nt thats why I mentioned about the editing On a slightly different note. Did you ever see 'Shadow Of A Vampire' that supposed that Max Shreck (Nosferatu) was a real life vampire? Excellent quirky movie starring Willem Dafoe and john Malkovich. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-16-2009, 09:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	Sorry overlooked that part, a director who is absolutely incredible for his use of editing is Dzigo Vertov, Man With a Movie Camera is so good. I've heard of that, didnt Malkovitch play Murnau and Dafoe Shreck? __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-16-2009, 09:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Yeah. Eddie Izzard is in it too. Well worth a watch. Dafoe is astonishing. I have never heard of Dzigo Vertov. I will have to dig up some info and get a film on my rental list. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-16-2009, 09:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	I'll look into that. Definately get Man With a Movie Camera, theres no scenario, no acting, no props - its a complete subversion of the conventions of cinema. Its literally him filming city life in the USSR, Odense i think, but he edits it in such a way to convey all this hidden meanings and facts of life you would not notice in quotidian circumstances You could say it's a realisat movie shot in a surrealist aesthetic __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-16-2009, 09:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	It definitely sounds intriguing. I hope that you have seen this too: Roma, città aperta (1945). Another sublime masterpiece. So much good European cinema. it's just a case of digging! Are you studying film at Uni? As you seem very knowledgeable. My knowledge is just life knowledge u know? __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-16-2009, 10:03 AM	#19 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,430	I havent, thats another one to hunt out! I do yeah, well, its a sub-topic. Plus im generally in love with French and German cinema. Thats well good, not enough people know or enjoy silent film, some of it is incredible. Even Le Voyage dans la lune is great, and that was made in 1902! __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

01-16-2009, 10:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	What's your favourite French Film? A lot of people cite 'Breathless' as the king of cool but I much prefer 'Bob Le Flambeur' which was 5 years earlier. That film is so cool. Rififfi too! so many films not enough time! __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”