Read a great article about how we have The Sopranos and The Wire to thank for all of the great TV series that have come out in the last half dozen or more years. They both re-wrote the book on how great serious and gritty drama can be done in a serialized format. Plus networks like Vudu, Prime, Netflix, and now even Youtube movies, have budgets that are starting to dwarf the HBOs of the world.

Facts, especially The Wire because fuck The Sopranos imo.

How you gonna hate The Sopranos?

Because.

Also Homicide: Life on the Street is the show that made it all possible. Watch it you losers.

Sopranos was so great except all those dream sequences when Tony was in a coma.

So far I really like I’m Dying Up Here

Of all those types of mega dramas Six Feet Under might be my best favorite

No. Shows like H:LOTS and Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue were gritty as hell, and they maintained all of the key characters, but they added new main plots with each episode. Yes, Sippowitz was an alcoholic during an entire season, but that was just a side bar to the new **** they'd bring in every week - that had nothing to do with the previous week in most cases.

Breaking Bad, The Wire, Sopranos, etc. kept pretty much a singular take going on for multiple seasons. They'd add new little arcs but the story line stayed solid to the origins of the show.

Unlike previous episodic dramas, these shows basically took an extended length movie with a solid fictional story premise, and then chopped it up into sections - leaving you with bated breath waiting for the next episode to take up where the last one left off.

These are great choices. I have been trying to catch up on Criminal Minds for a long time, currently in season 3.

Anyone watch The Handmaid’s Tale?

I loved the first season (and the book), and I was excited for the 2nd season even though they were going to have to deviate from the source material at this point. I had faith in the writing/directing/Elisabeth Moss’s sublime acting.

...but unfortunately this season has been a flaming failure in my opinion. It’s abundantly clear that Hulu ordered way too many episodes (****ing 13!!!!) and that the writers needed to really stretch things out to make that many. The story of this season could have easily been told in 8 episodes. The penultimate episode features practically zero new story developments. Moss is still consistently great but dear God it moves at a snail’s pace and has been a horrendous disappointment. Probably the most jarring falloff in quality from a first to second season that I’ve ever seen

Worse than Heroes?

Man have you some serious wtf moments coming up! :thumb:
Nothing's worse than Heroes.
Batty, I say again, particularly to you, check out Stan.