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Old 02-09-2010, 09:31 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Have you ever seen a war movie before Saving Private Ryan? Spielberg changed the war movie genre...
Yes I have, and I suppose it's the best war film going. Maybe it's just the genre I don't like. The opening scene was brilliantly done, and it had it's moments but I dunno, some people think of it as the best film ever made and I just think it's way overrated.

Each to their own though.
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:34 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I consider Saving Private Ryan to be the definitive war film, it's an amazing movie, but I can understand the criticisms of it resorting to patriotism and simplifying the Nazis as the bad guys, but I stand by the (not too irrational) belief that some Nazis were, you know, total c*nts and thus there is nothing wrong with depicting that in film, I'm tired of every little thing in a movie being interpreted as a propagonda message when the filmmakers probably didn't even think twice about it.

Spielberg probably did think about it though, because he probably hates Nazis, and uh, why in the hell wouldn't he?
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:54 PM   #63 (permalink)
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^ What you said didn't really make sense. All war movies, if not all movies, are made with a propagandistic thought underneath it. They're either with the war, or against it obviously.
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:03 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Hm, I don't have ten, but here goes:

Akira Kurosawa, Alfred Hitch****, Spike Jonze, David Lynch, and Kaneto Shindo.
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^ Lynch is in your top 5!
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I will happily accept that five and cherish it.
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^ What you said didn't really make sense. All war movies, if not all movies, are made with a propagandistic thought underneath it. They're either with the war, or against it obviously.
Actually, I was gonna address that most war movies take a stance one way or another but I forgot.

However not ALL of them too, I think it's possible to make an objective war film, but I don't think there's a need, IMO movies are a subjective experience, directors shouldn't have to approach what they do with objectivity. Quality is helped by having some historical and scientific accuracy, but it's not always a terrible sin if these things are avoided for the sake of telling a more compelling story.
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Actually, I was gonna address that most war movies take a stance one way or another but I forgot.

However not ALL of them too, I think it's possible to make an objective war film, but I don't think there's a need, IMO movies are a subjective experience, directors shouldn't have to approach what they do with objectivity. Quality is helped by having some historical and scientific accuracy, but it's not always a terrible sin if these things are avoided for the sake of telling a more compelling story.
If a movie was to be objective, it'll be boring and pointless. So yeah, they can do it, but they won't.
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I consider Saving Private Ryan to be the definitive war film,
Well I haven't seen either of them so I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I always that was Apocalypse Now.
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Well, more often than not I don't really think of Apocalypse Now as a war movie, it's more like a personal journey, and it's very surreal and dreamlike, unlike any war movie you'll ever see.
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