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VEGANGELICA 05-24-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ribbons (Post 871133)
The angry guy would be "Sawyer", who had the amusing habit of giving nicknames to the other characters on the show. If you were on LOST, Erica, I think Sawyer would probably nickname you............."Vegangelica". ;)

I don't know if I'd be able to stay a vegan on a remote island if I wished to survive, Liz! :( It's good to know, though, that if I'd been one of the Lost and had starved to death, apparently I wouldn't have really died. ;)

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 871135)
Not really.

Huh. I thought from what you said earlier that a big point of the series was that these people came together and, unbeknownst to them, were able to do something great together. Didn't this somehow involve protecting something good? Wasn't there some sort of struggle between factions (The Others, etc.)? If the Others were killing people, wouldn't they be the "bad" side?

It does sound like there were a lot of loose ends in the story, like noise said. The cat version seems a lot clearer.

someonecompletelyrandom 05-24-2010 01:24 PM

Having a "good" and "bad" side of the story doesn't mean it's archetypal good vs. evil. Every faction had a motivation, and every faction was willing to do something "evil" to achieve their goals, noble as some of them may be. We got to know best the Oceanic 815 survivors, but we are shown the story from everyone's view point. They were protecting something that needed to be protected, and they did it. The journey they took is the real highlight, is what I'm saying.

VEGANGELICA 05-24-2010 01:47 PM

And some journey it was, from the sounds of it! :)

Ah, I see. The show showed how all people can be willing to do "evil" to achieve their goals. That sounds fairly realistic. But if they were protecting something that "needed to be protected," wasn't that the ultimate "good" within the plot?

noise 05-24-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 871139)
The Others, like whoever came before them, were convinced by Jacob that the source needed to be protected...

The statue, as well as the ancient tunnels, were clearly built by whoever came before Jacob's adoptive Mother...

you're just makin' **** up ;)

i understand the hypotheticals here - i was just hoping for was something more concrete.

Astronomer 05-26-2010 07:36 AM

Just watched the final episode... I loved it. I'm really glad they didn't go with the whole "they were dead the whole time" theory. I really wanted the island to be real, so I'm happy with that. I also think it was really touching... how they all found each other in the afterlife, they needed each other to move on because the island and the people there were the most significant parts of their lives. Also, whenever one of the characters 'remembered' or realised where they were and what had happened, it made me all fuzzy inside.

noise 05-26-2010 07:55 AM

fuzzy inside - it think that's what they were going for ;)

but once that fuzzy feeling wears off, and you start thinking about all the unanswered questions, won't you feel like they pulled a fast one on you?

i sure do.

in truth, the ending had nothing to do with the island, or even with the main story. and the flash-sidways had nothing to do with the bomb going off, like we wre lead to believe. really, we could ignore the whole flash-sideways timeline, it's not at all essential to the plot. all that comes of it is 'oh yay, they all get to see each other again and they all forgive one another for being murderous wretches'. great.

but what about the island? the light? the temple? the tunnels? jacob and mib's mother? walt's powers? (where is he by the way?) the electromagnetism? it all just floats out there, completely unexplained. ugh.


Stone Birds 05-26-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 871727)
Just watched the final episode... I loved it. I'm really glad they didn't go with the whole "they were dead the whole time" theory. I really wanted the island to be real, so I'm happy with that. I also think it was really touching... how they all found each other in the afterlife, they needed each other to move on because the island and the people there were the most significant parts of their lives. Also, whenever one of the characters 'remembered' or realised where they were and what had happened, it made me all fuzzy inside.

well they pretty much all died at one point or another the makers of lost were very good at killing characters without actually killing the characters

Astronomer 05-26-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Birds (Post 871746)
well they pretty much all died at one point or another the makers of lost were very good at killing characters without actually killing the characters

Of course they all died at some point, nobody lives forever, everybody dies. The ones who made it off the island and Hurley and Ben who were guarding the light could have lived for ages after before they died.

I want to know what happened to Vincent, though, was he at the church? Don't dogs go to heaven :(

And why wasn't Lapidus at the church either? Because he was a minor character the island wasn't the influencing factor of his life/ it didn't give his life meaning like the other so he didn't need them to 'move on'?

James 05-26-2010 03:09 PM

^Agreed that confused me too

Janszoon 05-26-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 871935)
Don't dogs go to heaven :(

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