Official LOST Thread

VEGANGELICA · 05-24-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ribbons

The angry guy would be "Sawyer", who had the amusing habit of giving nicknames to the other characters on the show. If you were on LOST, Erica, I think Sawyer would probably nickname you............."Vegangelica".

I don't know if I'd be able to stay a vegan on a remote island if I wished to survive, Liz!

It's good to know, though, that if I'd been one of the Lost and had starved to death, apparently I wouldn't have really died.

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Originally Posted by Conan

Not really.

Huh. I thought from what you said earlier that a big point of the series was that these people came together and, unbeknownst to them, were able to do something great together. Didn't this somehow involve protecting something good? Wasn't there some sort of struggle between factions (The Others, etc.)? If the Others were killing people, wouldn't they be the "bad" side?

It does sound like there were a lot of loose ends in the story, like noise said. The cat version seems a lot clearer.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 05-24-2010, 01:24 PM

Having a "good" and "bad" side of the story doesn't mean it's archetypal good vs. evil. Every faction had a motivation, and every faction was willing to do something "evil" to achieve their goals, noble as some of them may be. We got to know best the Oceanic 815 survivors, but we are shown the story from everyone's view point. They were protecting something that needed to be protected, and they did it. The journey they took is the real highlight, is what I'm saying.

VEGANGELICA · 05-24-2010, 01:47 PM

And some journey it was, from the sounds of it!

Ah, I see. The show showed how all people can be willing to do "evil" to achieve their goals. That sounds fairly realistic. But if they were protecting something that "needed to be protected," wasn't that the ultimate "good" within the plot?

noise · 05-24-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

The Others, like whoever came before them, were convinced by Jacob that the source needed to be protected...

The statue, as well as the ancient tunnels, were clearly built by whoever came before Jacob's adoptive Mother...

you're just makin' **** up

i understand the hypotheticals here - i was just hoping for was something more concrete.

Astronomer · 05-26-2010, 07:36 AM

Just watched the final episode... I loved it. I'm really glad they didn't go with the whole "they were dead the whole time" theory. I really wanted the island to be real, so I'm happy with that. I also think it was really touching... how they all found each other in the afterlife, they needed each other to move on because the island and the people there were the most significant parts of their lives. Also, whenever one of the characters 'remembered' or realised where they were and what had happened, it made me all fuzzy inside.

noise · 05-26-2010, 07:55 AM

fuzzy inside - it think that's what they were going for

but once that fuzzy feeling wears off, and you start thinking about all the unanswered questions, won't you feel like they pulled a fast one on you?

i sure do.

in truth, the ending had nothing to do with the island, or even with the main story. and the flash-sidways had nothing to do with the bomb going off, like we wre lead to believe. really, we could ignore the whole flash-sideways timeline, it's not at all essential to the plot. all that comes of it is 'oh yay, they all get to see each other again and they all forgive one another for being murderous wretches'. great.

but what about the island? the light? the temple? the tunnels? jacob and mib's mother? walt's powers? (where is he by the way?) the electromagnetism? it all just floats out there, completely unexplained. ugh.

Stone Birds · 05-26-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

Just watched the final episode... I loved it. I'm really glad they didn't go with the whole "they were dead the whole time" theory. I really wanted the island to be real, so I'm happy with that. I also think it was really touching... how they all found each other in the afterlife, they needed each other to move on because the island and the people there were the most significant parts of their lives. Also, whenever one of the characters 'remembered' or realised where they were and what had happened, it made me all fuzzy inside.

well they pretty much all died at one point or another the makers of lost were very good at killing characters without actually killing the characters

Astronomer · 05-26-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Birds

well they pretty much all died at one point or another the makers of lost were very good at killing characters without actually killing the characters

Of course they all died at some point, nobody lives forever, everybody dies. The ones who made it off the island and Hurley and Ben who were guarding the light could have lived for ages after before they died.

I want to know what happened to Vincent, though, was he at the church? Don't dogs go to heaven

And why wasn't Lapidus at the church either? Because he was a minor character the island wasn't the influencing factor of his life/ it didn't give his life meaning like the other so he didn't need them to 'move on'?

~~James~~ · 05-26-2010, 03:09 PM

^Agreed that confused me too

**Janszoon** · 05-26-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

Don't dogs go to heaven

05-26-2010, 07:36 AM	#375 (permalink)
Astronomer we are stardust Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,894	Just watched the final episode... I loved it. I'm really glad they didn't go with the whole "they were dead the whole time" theory. I really wanted the island to be real, so I'm happy with that. I also think it was really touching... how they all found each other in the afterlife, they needed each other to move on because the island and the people there were the most significant parts of their lives. Also, whenever one of the characters 'remembered' or realised where they were and what had happened, it made me all fuzzy inside. __________________

05-26-2010, 07:55 AM	#376 (permalink)
noise thirsty ears Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Boulder Posts: 742	fuzzy inside - it think that's what they were going for but once that fuzzy feeling wears off, and you start thinking about all the unanswered questions, won't you feel like they pulled a fast one on you? i sure do. in truth, the ending had nothing to do with the island, or even with the main story. and the flash-sidways had nothing to do with the bomb going off, like we wre lead to believe. really, we could ignore the whole flash-sideways timeline, it's not at all essential to the plot. all that comes of it is 'oh yay, they all get to see each other again and they all forgive one another for being murderous wretches'. great. but what about the island? the light? the temple? the tunnels? jacob and mib's mother? walt's powers? (where is he by the way?) the electromagnetism? it all just floats out there, completely unexplained. ugh. __________________ my flac collection

05-24-2010, 01:24 PM	#372 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	Having a "good" and "bad" side of the story doesn't mean it's archetypal good vs. evil. Every faction had a motivation, and every faction was willing to do something "evil" to achieve their goals, noble as some of them may be. We got to know best the Oceanic 815 survivors, but we are shown the story from everyone's view point. They were protecting something that needed to be protected, and they did it. The journey they took is the real highlight, is what I'm saying.

05-26-2010, 03:09 PM	#379 (permalink)
~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	^Agreed that confused me too