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I'll feel like such a n00b because all my games are so new but I don't really know any super old games Anyways here's my top ten favorite games:

10. Age Of Mythology (+ Titans Expansion Pack)- I used to play this game a LOT when I was little. I still think it's really fun, because I \'ve always like Greek myths and it's cool to see how each unit is made to fit with it's mythology.

9. Rock Band 2- I'm sure almost everyone here has played this game at least once. It's really a simple design, and while there are so many different games to choose from (Rock Band 1, and all Guitar Hero games) I went with the one I've played the most

8. Impossible Creatures- Wow what an interesting concept that I think was actually pulled of pretty well. If you haven't heard of it, basically what you do is combine your various creatures to make armies of hybrid animals. Really cool, and with mods can get really interesting. I just wish they had gone farther with some of the concepts.

7. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion- I have spent an unhealthy amount of time on this game. Not my favorite Elder Scrolls game (see below) but still I think a fun game and incredible when modded. Definitely one of the greatest modern RPG's

6. Fallout 3- Another Bethesda game. I'll admit that I haven't played the original first two (I probably should) but I still think this one is great. It beats Oblivion for a couple of reason, but the main one for me is just the scope of the world. Fallout seemed like a more interesting, open, and explorable place to me.

5. Age Of Empires II- Once again, I haven't played the original. (But I have played the third on, which is definitely not as good). This game is just so fun. Build armies and defeat other kingdoms? What could be better?...

4. Warcraft 3- ... Besides this. This is basically a better Age Of Empires to me. All the armies, all the resources, all the cool units and technology, just done better and in a fantasy setting. This way, instead of building knights I get to build fucking Orc Shamans.

3. Civilization 3 and 4- I really couldn't choose here. I used to love Civ 3, and was a little disappointed when Civ 4 came out, but since then it has grown on me. Both of them are great and extremely addicting

2. Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind- Basically, this game beats Oblivion for a couple of reasons. One is that it's the game I played first, and one of the first video games I ever played, and two is actually the same reason I had Fallout 3 above Oblivion. For me, Morrowind is a more active, more fun, more explorable, and much more interesting world. I won't go in to too much detail, but if you really play Morrowind it can suck you in to it's world in a way Oblivion just can't.

1. Half Life 2 + Episodes- So, I have played the original Half Life. And Maybe it's just that it's an older game, but it really didn't do it for me. Half Life 2, on the other hand, does. T His game is so well put together, so well told, and just so... fun, it's just hard not to like. The episodes just extend it.

One of my favorite things about this game is it's story. It doesn't sacrifice any gameplay for story, but still you feel attached to the characters and yourself. I won't ruin it, but the end of Episode 2 really had me feeling a little sad inside. But still excited for the next one

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1. Grand Theft Auto III - Really, it brought about a whole new take on the old GTA games and video games in general. After all, when in previous video games could you flip cars, blow up police helicopters and snipe hookers from a parking garage?

2. Tetris - Especially 2 player vs. mode. You get a couple of people good and high and sit them down to a Tetris battle... see how long before one of them gives up.

3. 007: Goldeneye - Just a classic throwback from the mid-90s. Everybody played it. Everybody liked it, and lots of people still do. Including this guy right here.

4. Turok 2 - Same story. Who didn't like running around as a giant dinosaur beast, shooting out flying drill bits which were immediately drawn to your enemy's brain? Cerebral bore, like a mother ****er!

5. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater - Cool game. One of the first of it's kind. Used to sit around for hours, just smoking pot and playing this ****in' game. What else is a suburban kid gonna do when he's 14? Decent soundtrack, too.

6. Super Mario Land - Even after almost 20 years of being around, there are still levels on this game that I can't get through. There aren't too many games that people can say that about.

7. Mortal Kombat - If only just for kitsch kicks and nostalgia. I still like to bust out some of the original MK.

8. Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance - This was my favorite game from the MK series. The playability and variety of moves and combos were unlike any of the other MK games.

9. Wii Sports - An instant classic. There are some people out there who only play Wii Sports. It's not overly complicated, and it actually requires physical motion. Not to mention a disclaimer recommending that you put the **** down for a minute and go outside. How cool is that?

10. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 - Same story as the original, but the little extras like the park creator and character creator were just icing on the cake.

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Guybrush

Being oldschool in everything doesn't always make complete sense, though. It means you put more stock in sentinemtal value than anything. You can admit that a game like super metroid is much better than the original for the nes, but still the old one makes the list while the snes version does not (well, thinking hypothetically - I know it's not on anyone's list). Then what you're rating is your own feelings regarding the game rather than the game itself. Either that, or it's a simple matter of having a wish to be as old school as you can.

Maybe that's not critique worthy, it's a list of your 10 favourites and that implies some sentimental attachments. My own list has quite a bit of nostalgia in it. I'd say though, if your whole list is games that came out before 1996, you've been missing out as a gamer.

Games are getting better, I think. There are many brilliant titles and franchises in the market these days, but someone who puts more stock in sentimentality than quality will be too hard to please.

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boo boo

That's not true at all, if I think a game is truly better, I'll say it, even if the game it's better than is something I'm sentimentally attached to. I already said Super Metroid is better than Metroid.

But to say the only reason people prefer the older games is because of nostalgia is an unfair generalization, some people prefer the original Metroid just because it's a lot more challenging.

Well, only two games from this decade were on my list and they were both Wii games so you got me there I guess.

C'mon, that is very unfair, I admit I'm rather biased towards older games, but to say I don't rate games on their quality just isn't true, I've played my share of horrible old games and no I don't spare them any criticism just because they're old.

That was a sincere list of my favorite games, those were the games that most wowed me when I first played them and the games I still come back to the most often.

There were other games I could have added to the list that would have made it seem a little less Nintendo biased, like San Andreas and Homeworld. But just consider those my number 11 and 12 spots, respectively.

I won't deny that I'm biased towards older games but that's not merely out of sentiment. I personally think a lot of older games are just better, I don't know why that's any more far fetched than say a movie buff who still thinks older movies were better, or someone who still thinks the best era in music was the 60s and 70s.

Sure the industry's evolution into 3D brought about new genres like first person shooters (which I'm not a terribly big fan of) but I think 2D just works better for all the older genres. I personally don't think there's been that many big innovations in gameplay styles since the 64 bit era. The most popular PC games are still RTS games which are usually from an isometric persective, they're the kinda games even a 32 bit system could replicate, sure the graphics wouldn't be anywhere near as good, but all the gameplay related content could be crammed in there somehow.

There was a time when better graphics meant a greater opportunity for more innovative gameplay, new perspectives, better physics and so on. But now I think better graphics only mean one thing, and that's better graphics, that just isn't enough to impress me anymore.

As for sentimental attachment, personally I was much more sentimentally attached to OOT than LTTP, but I now acknowledge LTTP to be a better game not because it's older, but just because I consider it a flawless game, while OOT has at least one annoying flaw and that's wrestling the camera which can be a real hassle during boss battles, but that's a criticism I have with 3D games in general (the exceptions being rail sooters and games with an isometric view), because of that one inherent issue with every truly 3D game I've ever played, I don't think a 3D game can ever be completely flawless, like some 2D games can.

That's just my two cents. Have fun bickering at me.

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Guybrush

Well, there's no point in bickering about taste. I have a friend which is quite similar, he still plays his Nintendo and as a gamer, he's stuck in nostalgia land. I think of him as an ex-gamer. If you've completed A Link to the Past 20 times, isn't it time to move on?

I'd like to challenge this statement though. You have Street Fighter II on your list. Well, I've played a helluva lot of SFII in my time and recently I tried SFIV. It doesn't have an annoying camera angle problem so that can't always be a factor in 3D. In fact, aside from it's predecessor being a classic, I'd say IV it's better than II.

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1. Gears of War 2
Better than the original. Although I have quit playing the game recently because it screwed me over (long story) I have nothing but good things to say about it. Such a fun, gory game.

2. 007 Goldeneye
A breakthrough in shooters and by far the best game made for the 5th generation, Goldeneye for the 64 was and still is today considered the best first person shooter of all time.

3. Super Mario Bros. 3
Seriously GOAT. Nuff said.

4. GTA IV
The reason it is above GTA 3 is for one reason: The Multiplayer. Never have I had so much fun pissing off Americans while running around as a zombie in yellow underwear.

5. GTA 3
Such a huge impact. Turned Grand Theft Auto into more than just controversy. Got more clones than Dolly the Sheep.

6. Guitar Hero Metallica
I had a LOT of fun with this game. The best setlist I have ever seen in a music rhythm game. Also made me for madder in love with Tallica.

7. Tetris
How is this game not legendary? Indescribably addictive and pretty much the best thing Russia has ever done.

8. Zelda: The Ocarina of Time
I remember playing this game a few years ago. I had heard it was long, then when I played it I believed the talk. It was so long and intricate. It had taken me two weeks to finish it. And then when I finished it I realised I had only gotten half way. Monster game.

9. GTA: San Andreas
Just like the above game. An immensely huge game with so many customizational things and a storyline that's deepness is only dethroned by GTA IV.

10. Brutal Legend
This is where my new-games bias really shows it's true colours. Call me crazy for loving it but GODDAMNIT is this game good. Especially for metalheads like me who play games either for gore or humor. This game has both!

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boo boo

Man, I should have thought of a better scoring system for this.

The original idea is that the highest ranking game on a list is worth 10 points, and the lowest is worth 1.

But keeping score of everything will be hard, you have any suggestions that might make this easier?

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I just built this quickly if you're interested.

Scorecard

It's pretty crude but it works (I think). Just +1 in the relevant score column and the total will update

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Says my servor can't handle mediafire downloads for some reason.

Care to try another filesharing service?

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LoathsomePete

C'mon it's an Excel document sheet, just e-mail it to him

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