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That being said, KH1 is still a good game and it brings a lot of great things to the table. |
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Kh2 definitely had a better combat system and cooler worlds but the first one had a better story imo. I wouldnt consider either of them the GOAT though. Also, I hated that gummy ship bull **** haha |
Well story is a subjective matter, and I actually might even agree that KH1 had a better story (the Organization 13 stuff feels a bit contrived at times). The objective things, like graphics, camera, battle mechanics, features, worlds, customization options, etc are all heavily in favor of KH2, which is of no fault to KH1, they just had several years to polish the really rough parts of KH1.
But yeah, I wouldn't nominate either of these games for GOAT anyway. A game needs to be a flawless experience, where every single aspect is just mind-blowing. Gameplay, music, and graphics all have to come together in an effortless amalgamation of beauty. And that's why my nomination for greatest game of all-time is now, always has been, and always will be: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nYpEqwpUlV...1640_front.jpg |
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But even as much polish and added content as KH2 had I still think the first one is the better game. Also HELL YES donkey kong is the illest **** ever |
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I just meant that it is weird that you would choose MGS2. I can't find anything (gameplay, or otherwise) that the second one did better than the MGS. |
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Take a fucking chill pill, bro. |
^Again, I apologize for that. I just get really annoyed when someone questions me just because I prefer a certain game over it's more popular predecessor (and the fact that I've dealt with much worse responses to my opinions doesn't help). I admittedly wasn't in the best mood when I read the post I replied to, so I really did go overboard with that response (even though I am serious about my dislike of solely using objective factors to determine if someone likes a game. I know that you (or most people in this thread, for that matter) weren't really doing that, though. I was kind of venting a bit more about Tuna's old post, which, combined with the quoted line in my last post, set me off).
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Also, on the subject of Kingdom Hearts, I agree with you about Days being respectable, even if it did have some missions that I loath with a passion. |
Days got REALLY rough at some points. I remember one mission in Wonderland where you had to take out one of the things that looked like this:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...en_Requiem.png But it was really big and moved REALLY fast and you couldn't combo it at all because it wouldn't stagger, and it took me like three hours just to kill the damn thing. A lot of the missions were pretty bland but I still liked Days quite a bit, especially because I really dug the story and thought the ending was quite surprising and well done. |
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I agree with Halo 4 being the next best after 1. The campaign was much more a return to form than any of the prior sequels. I liked that it was more serious, sorrowful, and dramatic–especially the cutscenes and voice acting, which I thought were done really really well. I played the campaign co-op with one of my friends (who I also played the original halo with way back in the day on Xbox) on veteran and that was just so much fun. I really liked the level where you flew a fighter in space because that was just so new and original. I could talk about this more but I just seriously think 4 was the next the best after 1. I didn't have any problems with the multiplayer and thought it was really fun. The same goes for Spartan Ops. |
Shin megami tensei : Nocturne
http://images.stopgame.ru/games/logo...i_nocturne.jpg Best Rpg ive ever played, it beats FF6 and 7 easily, imo this is the best game of the SMT series. |
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_a-odO7Cyix...reverrules.jpg Chrono Trigger to me is the GOAT, but Dragon Quest VIII definitely comes as a close second. This game is so perfect, everything from the battle system, characters, story and amount of content you get. Ive played through it way too many times yet it always remained fresh. |
Nocturne is one the Ps2, it's a great game if you like Rpgs i'll guarantee you'll like it.
i haven't played Dragonquest but i heard it was the best selling rpg in japan at one point and alot of ppl have pointed out it's a great series. Chrono trigger ive played but i don't think it's amazing as ppl say it is, i think it was a great rpg during the snes era but it's also over hyped as f*ck, it's like earthbound ppl would have you believe they were the greatest thing ever but the snes had FF3 (6) and Breath of fire 2 and Lufia 2 which is one of the best rpgs i played for the snes but it hardly gets any mentions. I think Chrono trigger has a great premise but the gameplay it's fairly standard for an rpg (excluding the multiple endings concept) |
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It's a unique game in a way since the story deals with time traveling and multiple possibilities and not alot of rpgs have done that. (can't think of any other rpg that has done it) But i played the Ps1 version that came with FF5 (i think) and it had anime cutscenes which made the game a little cooler but aside from a few cool things it was fairly standard rpg experience for me, the premise of that game was too big for the capacity of the snes, if that game were a ps2 game it woulda been a masterpiece just by staying true to his premise, but sadly it's a snes game that was too ambitious for it's time and didn't quite deliver (for me) Now take ff3, just as ambitious as Chrono trigger but they used the Snes format amazingly, way better than Chrono. They did it so well, FF3 it's regarded by many FF fans as the best FF game. ive played and finished both games and ff3 was more memorable for me. because though Chrono had a cooler premise, FF3 told his story better. |
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@black francis CT had multiple timelines which each had their own story. FF VI had the regular world and the destroyed world. VI also had a much more open ended storyline, it let you kind lf do your own thing. CT while linear went more in to detail and had better characters. The characters and story are way more memorable for me. The soundtrack to Trigger is also incredible. Breath of fire series is great and I agree its under rated. Ive been playing 2 recently actually haha. |
I didn't play through CT until recently, and can confirm that it's not nostalgia, they basically perfected the classic JRPG experience.
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I know I'm gonna get some flak for this, but I think there needs to be two separate categories for 'best game ever' games in 3-D, and games not in 3-D.
Like how do we compare the graphics, controls, etc. of these games: Contra Attachment 5556 Super Castlevania IV Attachment 5558 Versus this: Shadow of the Colossus Attachment 5555 Attachment 5557 Kind of a big difference in graphics right? By the way, I think all of these games are A+ grade, and I love all of them. |
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For handheld, the Dragon Warrior series is the best of all time.
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1. Fallout 3 2. GTA V 3. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 4. Fallout New Vegas 5. Heavy Rain 6. Batman Arkham City 7. Bioshock 8. Dead Space 9. Dishonored 10. Uncharted: Drakes Fortune I think. |
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Saying what you think is the best game ever is your own personal opinion and if you are the type to rate a game better than an other game over graphics then so be it. I prefer not to do that. Gameplay is definitely my first concern. If you feel the need to make two separate criteria then go ahead but I don't feel like it's needed. |
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The Elder Scrolls series will always be my favourite, despite their infamous glitches. |
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Favourite games of all time in no particular order:
Half-Life 2 Team Fortress 2 Counter-Strike Mario 64 Mario Galaxy 2 Zelda Ocarina of Time Metroid Prime Resident Evil 4 Ico Tetris Super Mario World Zelda A Link to the Past Wipeout Journey Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown Bayonetta Espgaluga II Mushihimesama Futari Dark Souls |
i don't remember if ever listed mine but i find it best to pick the best one depending on their console
NES: Maniac Mansion, Mario 2, Zelda, Ninja gaiden, Metroid, double dragon, but i think my fav Nes game is Crash-n-the Boyz which was like a street gang urban olympics kinda game. it's referenced in the scott pilgrim movie. Sega master system: Alex the kid, Shinobi Snes: Shadowrun, Lufia2, FF6&4, Breath of fire 2, Super metroid, Zelda, Nba live the SNES is when i really got into gaming and rpgs. PS1: FF7 & 8, Castlevania SOTN, Suikoden 1 & 2, Theme park & Hospital. Persona 1 & 2, Jet Moto, Tony hawk, etc The PS1 had a great balanced game library, my best gaming experience on it though was FF7 and Suikoden 2, great games. OH, and Soul reaver Saturn: Guardian heroes (Best beat'em up/rpg ive ever played) Dreamcast: NBA2K, Sonic, Shenmue and my Fav 7th cross evolution PS2: Nocturne (And all the Shin megami tensei games) SOTC, Ico, Shadow hearts, Kingdom hearts, FF10, tony hawk, NFL blitz: the league. |
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I only ever played Suikoden 4 and 5. Five was pretty sweet, but four was the shiz. I got to have my own galleon and sail across the ocean. What the **** more could I want? |
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i forget his name (luc i think) but he is a recurring character in the suikoden games, in previous games he was a good guy. I really like the play option, you know that little theater section in the ship? depending on the play and the cast you get different results that was pretty fun. it's a nice little distraction you use to take a break from the main story, like the card game in FF8 or Blitzball in FF10, |
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i haven't played 5, and i never got them on 2 cause some characters are really hard to get.. you need to follow a sequence of events with certain members in your party or else you'll never get them. Another rpg i liked i forgot to mention was Star ocean for the Ps1 and Star ocean: Till the end of time for Ps2. In the Star ocean for Ps2 in order to get the accompanied endings you had to be careful in your actions and decisions during the game.. Suikoden 2 is kinda like that too, to get things right you need a strategy guide. |
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Dude, did he get his post titles from the special zone in Super Mario World?
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