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Old 09-28-2013, 02:13 AM   #101 (permalink)
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You don't realize this story is fiction it doesn't have to be convincing. The story doesn't even have to cater to being in a mob.
I realize that just fine, you seem to like arguing.

The characters have to be believable for me, I think men are biologically more capable of committing violent acts while women can be more pragmatic in these situations.

If a woman protagonist's toughness comes across as forced, she'll probably end up annoying me throughout the game
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:40 AM   #102 (permalink)
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I realize that just fine, you seem to like arguing.

The characters have to be believable for me, I think men are biologically more capable of committing violent acts while women can be more pragmatic in these situations.

If a woman protagonist's toughness comes across as forced, she'll probably end up annoying me throughout the game
I don't see us having different opinions as arguing. We are having a discussion and we have different viewpoints but ummm okay if you want to see it as arguing.

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I don't feel that way at all. Both genders are equally capable of committing violent acts.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:23 AM   #103 (permalink)
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I don't see us having different opinions as arguing.
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:02 PM   #104 (permalink)
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I don't feel that way at all. Both genders are equally capable of committing violent acts.
So a woman is equally as capable of overpowering and curb stomping me as a man? I'm all for female lead characters in games, but this is blatant white knighting.
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Sniper Wolf was a great character.

lol at Slow Groove's PS3. Will add.
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:15 PM   #106 (permalink)
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I don't see us having different opinions as arguing. We are having a discussion and we have different viewpoints but ummm okay if you want to see it as arguing..
No in that other thread you tried to insinuate my post was racist, now it seems like you're trying to paint people into a corner for being sexist.

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So a woman is equally as capable of overpowering and curb stomping me as a man? I'm all for female lead characters in games, but this is blatant white knighting.
Yeah the scene involving Trevor and Johnny Klebitz (biker from GTA IV, those of you who've gotten as far know the scene) comes to mind. I couldn't ever seeing a woman realistically pull off that act, they aren't endowed enough physically. Maybe they could have a woman protagonist in a more practical and less physical role, but that's not very GTA-like

Men are from a biological standpoint more violent, and statistics back it up
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Yeah the scene involving Trevor and Johnny Klebitz (biker from GTA IV, those of you who've gotten as far know the scene) comes to mind. I couldn't ever seeing a woman realistically pull off that act, they aren't endowed enough physically. Maybe they could have a woman protagonist in a more practical and less physical role, but that's not very GTA-like

Men are from a biological standpoint more violent, and statistics back it up
Or she could be totally butch. I thought of that in a jokey way, but it would actually be kind of interesting for a video game to have a female character that would be almost impossible to sexualize.
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People should spoiler spoilers of the game tbh.
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Or she could be totally butch. I thought of that in a jokey way, but it would actually be kind of interesting for a video game to have a female character that would be almost impossible to sexualize.
Yeah I won't deny there's some latent (or not) sexism in video games and society in general. Men are judged more for their actions, while women more for their looks so a butch female as a protagonist wouldn't happen. they're in video games but are usually relegated to supporting roles for comic relief, while beautiful women like Lara Croft are sexualized and made to feel helpless so that the player can help her (like the white knight that he is)

I think there's a biological basis to all this, and the sexism is by no means a societal creation. Biology never has been fair anyways
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