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jwb 10-31-2019 05:04 PM

You say it's taboo... It's not really taboo in Hollywood. It might be taboo at any particular dinner table. But in this industry there's undeniably more of a taboo against being percieved a bigot than there against the marginalized groups they're trying to shelter from any cricism.

It's all about how powerful the lobbying group behind you is. Jews are far from a disenfranchised group in this country yet you can still get in trouble for saying anything that borders on anti-Semitic.

jwb 10-31-2019 05:06 PM

I don't think he made himself out to be a martyr. If he was doing press tours on the threat to comedy in a serious tone, that would fit. Instead he did what a comedian does and worked it into his act. Social commentary has always been part of comedy and usually, if a comedian addresses their own controversies directly on stage, this is seen as an appropriate response.

jwb 10-31-2019 05:10 PM

Sorry to hear that.

And sorry that you edited bitchy to whiny

Frownland 10-31-2019 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2086998)
I don't think he made himself out to be a martyr.

Lmao dude you're dreaming. Even if he didn't, obsessive anti-PC dorks like yourself are doing a great job of it for him.

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If he was doing press tours on the threat to comedy in a serious tone, that would fit. Instead he did what a comedian does and worked it into his act. Social commentary has always been part of comedy and usually, if a comedian addresses their own controversies directly on stage, this is seen as an appropriate response.
Double lmao at thinking that Chappelle offered any unique or valuable social commentary in his special.

jwb 10-31-2019 06:24 PM

I don't think I painted him as a martyr either. I do love how you can't get over me liking the special despite your disapproval.

Frownland 10-31-2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2087021)
I don't think I painted him as a martyr either.

Whatever you'd like to tell yourself.

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I do love how you can't get over me liking the special despite your disapproval.
How does you painting him as a martyr run counter to you liking the special? They go hand in hand as far as I can tell.

jwb 10-31-2019 06:43 PM

When did I paint him as a martyr? He's a triumphant champion, not a martyr.

Frownland 10-31-2019 06:50 PM

Jacking off to him totes pwning the PC bogeyman that you already had a hate boner for has the air of championing him as a martyr for the harsh and traumatic criticism he got from those meanie critics.

jwb 10-31-2019 07:00 PM

Maybe you don't know what a martyr is

When someone attacks you and you attack them back and pwn them, you're not a martyr

You're only a martyr when you fall on your sword for your cause

My whole point about Chappelle from the beginning is that he has ****-you money which allows him to cross lines with relative impunity, where other comics wouldn't able to. This gives him more freedom.

Beyond that, your understanding of what I like about the special is simplistic to say the least... I don't like it just cause he "pwned" his PC critics. I like the way he played with the common narrative and kept straddling both sides as to keep you guessing, and above all I liked single funny lines with a good delivery.

Frownland 10-31-2019 07:12 PM

"Whatever you'd like to tell yourself."

-Socrates


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