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Old 03-31-2015, 10:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Nah. He's just f*cking with people.


Anyway, the ball came from one direction, but the next shot showed him (and the direction) reversed (which you can tell by looking at the carpet; the orange ring in the pattern is only broken on one side, not both, so he should have had a black line in front of him and not a closed off orange ring).
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Anyway, the ball came from one direction, but the next shot showed him (and the direction) reversed (which you can tell by looking at the carpet; the orange ring in the pattern is only broken on one side, not both, so he should have had a black line in front of him and not a closed off orange ring).
So Kubrick sets up the overhead shot, films it, yells cut, and has the crew move everything 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Why? I can guarantee that pretty much no-one noticed this during their first viewing of the movie. So why do it?

During the scene where Wendy is going through the hotel with the knife looking for Danny they have the camera filming her straight on a number of times inter-cut with showing us what she's seeing. Each time they show Wendy the background color is either predominantly red or blue.

When it's red the knife is in one of her hands and when it's blue it's in the other. Again, why do this?

Stanley being Stanley.

And it was Danny who let Jack out of the food storage room.........
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So Kubrick sets up the overhead shot, films it, yells cut, and has the crew move everything 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Why? I can guarantee that pretty much no-one noticed this during their first viewing of the movie. So why do it?

During the scene where Wendy is going through the hotel with the knife looking for Danny they have the camera filming her straight on a number of times inter-cut with showing us what she's seeing. Each time they show Wendy the background color is either predominantly red or blue.

When it's red the knife is in one of her hands and when it's blue it's in the other. Again, why do this?

Stanley being Stanley.

And it was Danny who let Jack out of the food storage room.........
Again, I don't think it's that crazy that he was making a commentary about perspective, casting doubts on what supposedly "good" characters like Wendy and Danny encountered. After all, isn't that one of the main themes of the movie anyway?

Red is the color of blood, and for that reason our bodies are able to notice that color more than others, since it's basically the color of danger and pain. Jack truly makes up his mind about "correcting" his family in a room that is painted completely red, Wendy is holding a knife when the color red appears, etc., all makes sense as a commentary on fear.

What drove Jack to try to kill his family (or, alternatively, what caused Wendy to believe he was attacking her)? Is the fear that warped their perceptions the same as the fear that drove the Americans into massacring the Native Americans? Is it the same hysteria that caused Germany to follow the Nazi party? Is it the same paranoia that makes it easier for people to believe that the government staged various historical events than to go by what has been verified by people they don't trust? After all, they're giving into timeless survival instincts and the tribal mentality that has existed throughout humanity's history, and it's just like Grady says (and again, i'm paraphrasing): "I've always been here, and so have you".

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I think that with The Shining you could make a case that those are subtle cues hinting at Jack's deteriorating mental state.
Was it the ghosts that gave it away? When you first watch the movie, he's the one who is pegged as the obvious villain. But like Chula said earlier, there are different narratives going on, and different ways to look at the movie. Jack isn't the only one who sees things that don't make sense, and that may just be Kubrick screwing with the audience, it still makes you wonder if maybe the whole family wasn't afflicted by cabin fever and latent fears/grudges coming to surface.

Edit: Hey Chula, I have a question. Throughout the movie, you hear Jack typing his "story". Has anyone ever listened to when he hits the letter and space keys, to see if he's actually typing "All work and No Play... etc."? It'd be freaky if he was actually typing something else the whole time.
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Is it the same paranoia that makes it easier for people to believe that the government staged various historical events than to go by what has been verified by people they don't trust?
The Apollo narrative is pretty complex. After 2001 came out NASA contacted Kubrick and arranged a meeting with him. The official story is that NASA wanted some consulting on how to best do the video and still photograph work for the upcoming moon shot.

The theory is that Stanley was actually hired and paid lots of money and given some very high tech equipment (In order to shoot the movie Barry Lyndon Kubrick somehow got a hold of 3 of the lenses that were developed specifically for NASA for the moon landing) in return for helping NASA stage some of the visuals of the moon landing.

He was sworn to secrecy but the theory is that he dropped hints about his involvement throughout The Shining. He also delayed the opening of his final film Eyes Wide Shut to July 16, 1999 - the 30th anniversary to the day of the Apollo 11 launch.

- The hotel they filmed the Shining in didn't have a room 237. Stanley specifically chose that number for the room. The average distance between the earth and the moon is 237,000 miles.

- If you look closely at the pages Jack typed the word All is actually typed as A11 a lot of the time. A11 - Apollo 11.

And then there's this.



There's a bunch more subtle stuff too.
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