MB's Video Game Classics: Starcraft
 

I love the Starcraft games, and I think the first one will always have a special place in people's hearts, even though the 2nd game is far superior. I'd say a solid 4/5 for this one.

I know I've personally spent hours with friends on this one in multiplayer. Not sure which I find more fun tho, Warcraft or Starcraft.

I ****ing suck ass at StarCraft (the "C" should be capitalized, bro) but I still try not to and the pro scene (RIP) was some of the most entertaining **** ever (long live Jaedong!). Plenty of games have high talent ceilings but nothing like the finger ****ing, multi-tasking horror show of StarCraft. Just the thought of being able to do that **** correctly gives me half a woody.

Yeah I know the spelling is off but I'm lazy. I agree tho. Some of the most fun is setting up your base quickly and hopefully getting the upper hand on your opponents. The competitive scene for this game is insane. I don't know if I'll ever be able to be as good as the guys that play this in competitions.

A while back me and Elph played a few games against the computer and our combined might was regularly crushed. Even skirmishes do not **** about.

I just can't deal with RTS games. There's no genre I'm worse at.
Turn based combat is my one true love.

Same. But they're just so ****ing cool. It's probably the closest you could ever feel to being God without being a serial killer.

BTW Qwerty voted 1/5 because he knows he can't play StarCraft so he settles for LoL. He's admitted as much.

Not surprising that the two LoL players voted 1/5. Even though Starcraft came before it and basically was a part of the birth of that genre as a whole. But y'know, whatev.

The two sides can never be friends. StarCraft players think LoL is stupid and LoL players known it's stupid.

Not sure what my LoL history has to do with anything, I played the hell out of WCII.. Warcraft II is the OG, fuck SC.

MiniGolf, Free, and ChopChop > anything Starcraft.

Now do you see why I think you're autistic?

Warcraft is good. Frozen Throne is one of my favorite gaming experiences. Warcraft 2 is also very very good. I remember playing through it for the first time when I was like...14.

The corniness that is Artosis is reason enough to dislike the game even Day9 can not bring it back. No denying SC is the better competitive series and well respected game but ive never been a fan.

So glad Artosis ditched the Hearthstone scene that dude is obnoxious.

Why do you hate Artosis so much? He's just a goofy nerd who's pretty likable. Do you hate Tasteless as well?

DMV just hates fun.

I don't think this is the first time I've heard someone rep WC2 over SC1 but I'm curious why one would love one while not liking the other.

Yeah, though I can understand liking WC2 more, I still love Starcraft on its own merits. Plus, Starcraft 2 is also amazing.

Oh btw **** Protoss. Protoss are hella lame and even if it's SC2 I hated watching Protoss players spam blink Stalkers as if it wasn't cheap and gay.

Protoss always seemed like the easy class to play because the upgrades you get are a bit OP. I love playing Zerg tho.

Fear the ****ing Swarm!!! This is why Jaedong is my spirit animal. I just wish I had the ability to play Zerg properly. That **** is hard.

And this is the best thing SC2 ever did.

People who can master Zerg are fun to watch. That's a tough class to get good at since there's a bit more management involved.

A bit? Managing a Terran or Protoss army in SC1 with the limited number of hotkeys is already intimidating but commanding legions of Zerglings with those hotkeys is a whole 'nother level.

Well I figured you'd already know so the "a bit" part was just extra. I miss bringing my old ass PC over to my friends house and setting up LAN parties for Starcraft. Back when we had to figure out how to carry those large ass monitors around.

Whenever I stop being lazy and cheap and get my computer fixed we gotta StarCraft now that it's free.

Hell yeah man. I even have the 2nd one on Battle.Net so I can play either. I'll prob get pwnd tho.

I got both with all the expansions but SC2's load times are a bear for my computer. But there's no way you could be worse than me. I am biologically designed to be terrible at StarCraft. I also have WarCraft 3 but tbh I never put that much time into it. The unit engagements seem to take forever since the game wants to be an RPG just a bit too much.

Fair enough. However if it were Warcraft III, I'd probably school your ass. I have so many god damn hours put into that game that I can basically play with my eyes closed.

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Great minds think alike it seems. But fair enough. I think Starcraft is the better game when it comes down to 1 v 1 combat. The story for Warcraft is great, but Starcraft really puts a focus on making sure everything works well together. And man, when you have a huge base on your side in Starcraft, it's like you're managing a freakin' city.

Yeah my ability to multitask falls apart pretty quick so all those Day9 lessons about "Pylons and Probes" go out the window about five minutes in. I think I'd need to actually drill myself with a set schedule like SC was my second job to be able to overcome my innate scatterbrained nature. And don't think I've never been tempted to do that.

Day9's been doing a series on learning to play SC1 btw ever since the remaster came out and my god is he my favorite teacher including real teachers. So if you ever feel like dusting off the ol' Terran Marine boots...

Whenever I tried SC I felt like I'd rather be playing WC because they are similar but I like the units, maps, custom games, and aesthetics better in WC so why would I ever play SC? All the little things add up even though the games are for the most part the same.

as for Artosis... Idk, I view him as a real life incarnation of the stereotypical cringey nerd. There are ways to talk about games without sounding so obnoxious, I typically do not fit in with the people I share a hobby with. I like my analysis and game talk to be intellectual and serious, not full of twitch chat memes. I'm really not fun to play games with.. I'm all about the seriousness. Even when I'm one tricking with Mei and having fun, I'm not goofing off, I just happen to enjoy a non-meta champ.

Autistic. But seriously why do you like Day9 so much? He's a great analysist but he's as goofy and nerdy as they come.

I can understand that dwv as Warcraft was the one I played first but I still think Starcraft just takes Warcraft and makes it better enough.

I like him as a streamer, I don't know him for his other content like you do. Hes genuinely funny and not memey at all. Unlike Artosis who tries to be funny by making terribly corny jokes. Day9 doesnt even try, hes just being himself and hes fucking hilarious most of the time.

Some people are just unlikable to others. Artosis falls into that category for me, and Idk the other guy you mentioned. Idk if you watch any Hearthstone but this will help give you a better idea:

Kibler, Firebat, Zalae = goooood
Frodan, TJ, Admirable = baaaaad

As analysts and casters.

First experience means a lot. Red Alert 2 is still my fav RTS for reasons other than it actually being better than other RTS's. It was my introduction to the genre which I didn't even know existed beforehand, the units were fun and ridiculous, and I put so many hours into it that it's a solid competitor for my most played game of all-time. But I would never say it was actually a better game than StarCraft/Brood War.

I just love debating Warcraft and Starcraft because it's like choosing the better of two great games. Can't be surprised tho. It was Blizzard who did them after all. I don't think I can think of a single Blizzard game that I hated.

You should check out his StarCraft videos. I'd barely heard of StarCraft before I discovered his random Amnesia playthrough and just jumped into his videos without understanding what the **** he was even talking about. He's vastly interesting and fun with how he can describe strategy and tactics in very minute detail while also never falling out of his entertaining personality. It helps that he clearly cares about nothing as much as he does StarCraft. And his Funday Monday videos are a "hoot".

I dont have a problem calling a game better than another game. This is a subjective discussion unless you plan to talk about some specific comparison that can be analyzed objectively. Youre just lying to yourself about which game you think is better.

My only comparison that I mentioned earlier is that Starcraft just feels more involved. There's more management that has to take place to ensure victory. As much as I love Warcraft, it's very easy to just build a ton barracks and constantly throw units at your enemies. That's just me tho. I'm not claiming that as fact.

Secondly your base in SC feels way more structured than WC