Classic Albums I have never heard

Surell · 03-01-2014, 10:56 AM

Since you've done some 90s stuff AND may do some more indie stuff, I wanted to try this on you:

Trollheart · 04-02-2014, 12:41 PM

Time to try to get this here journal back on track!Thanks for all the suggestions, some of which I've done, some of which I will do, some of which I won't. But it's now time for me to try to bring some sense of sanity and order to this journal and so I'm going back to my list and for handiness' sake I'm going to (try to) do them in order.

The next one therefore is this:

Review soon...

Trollheart · 04-03-2014, 03:43 PM

Title: Californication
Artiste: Red Hot Chili Peppers
Year: 1999
Chronological position: Seventh album
Previous experience of this artiste?: Bits here and there; listened (with one ear) to their greatest hits
Why is this considered a classic? Their most commercially successful album, it also saw the return of guitarist John Frusciante after an extended period in rehab. He's credited with changing the Peppers' complete musical sound. Apparently.

My thoughts
One minute (or thereabouts in) ---- Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other? Meh
One track in --- Meh
Halfway through --- Good
Finished --- Good to meh, hard to decide really.

Comments: I'v enever been that big a fan of RHCP. Not that I don't like them or think they're a good band, but that's just it: I think they're a good band, but not a great band. Mind you, I haven't heard enough of their music really to be making that sort of judgement, but given the adulation tracks like “Under the bridge” and “Give it away” received I was left sort of shrugging my shoulders and asking why? I don't care for the opener --- too much rap in it for me, and you know how I feel about that! --- but the second is good. But just good, not great. Not yet anyway. I've heard Scar tissue and like that, more rap in Get on top, bit of funk too which again really isn't my thing but I see it was theirs in the past.

I of course know the title and do like that a lot, and Emit remmus (guffaw!) is good hard rock with a sort of Clash-ish sense of anger in it. More funk in I like dirt; it's okay but I don't. Like it, that is. I do like Saviour though but hate Purple stain. And so it goes. It's not really an album of enough strong tracks to impress me personally. Just all right, I guess. I remember hearing Road trippin' and liking that, and there's no change here, so a good closer. But it doesn't do enough to override the tracks I don't like.

Favourite track(s): Parallel universe, Otherside, Californication, Emit remmus, Saviour, Road trippin'
Least favourite track(s): Around the world, Get on top, Purple stain (Seeing a pattern here?

) Right on time

Final impression --- Yeah, a decent album but it's got a lot of weak points for me. Probably too many tracks as well. I suppose I'd have to know more about them to comment on the change in musical direction, but it's not really an album I'd be in too much of a rush to go back to, to be honest. Sexual innuendos are a little too close to the bone for me and not at all clever; too in-your-face, as it were.

Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

Gotta say E on this occasion.

Black Francis · 04-03-2014, 03:57 PM

"Space may be the final frontier but it's made in a hollywood basement"

I always liked that line in californication.

The Batlord · 04-04-2014, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sexual innuendos are a little too close to the bone for me and not at all clever; too in-your-face, as it were.

I don't think they really care about being subtle.

Astronomer · 04-06-2014, 05:59 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't love Californication, I do love some of the lines in the title song though.

Trollheart · 04-06-2014, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astronomer

I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't love Californication, I do love some of the lines in the title song though.

Hi honey! Welcome back! You've been away too long, that's for sure.

Trollheart · 09-23-2014, 03:01 PM

Man I'm working hard on Metal Month II, but it must be time to rejuvenate this ol' journal again, so here first of all is an updated list. Which I'm not going to follow. More after.

The list so far. Albums in GREEN have been reviewed already.

The White Stripes --- Elephant
ZZ Top --- Tres hombres
Lynyrd Skynyrd --- Pronounced...
RHCP --- Californication
David Bowie --- Low
Massive Attack --- Mezzanine
PIL --- Metal box
Peter Tosh --- Wanted dread or alive
Captain Beefheart --- Trout Mask replica
Earth Wind and Fire --- That's the way of the world
Janet Jackson --- Rhythm nation 1814
The Clash --- London calling
Yes --- Close to the edge
Slayer --- Reign in blood
Moby --- Play
Pink Floyd --- Animals (This has been removed as I have already listened to it independently of this journal in the intervening months)
The Smiths --- The queen is dead
REM --- Automatic for the people
U2 --- The Joshua Tree
My Bloody Valentine --- Loveless
AC/DC --- Back in black
Neil Young --- After the gold rush
Paul Simon --- Graceland
Stevie Wonder --- Songs in the key of life
Simon and Garfunkel --- Bridge over troubled water
Bob Marley --- Exodus
Nirvana --- Nevermind
Bob Dylan --- Blood on the tracks
Michael Jackson --- Thriller (I've decided not to bother with this, as really there are only about three tracks on it that I don't know, so it kind of goes against the spirit of what I'm trying to do here. I also looked at Bad, but same thing really. So I think I'll just pass on Jackson; his music is too mainstream and commercial for me not to really have heard, in one way or another, his albums regarded as classics)
Metallica --- Master of puppets (Reviewed for Metal Month '13, so no longer a valid choice. May replace with another Metallica. Suggestions?)
Human League --- Dare!
ELP --- Tarkus (Note 5)
ABC --- The lexicon of love
Kate Bush --- The hounds of love
Waterboys --- Fisherman's blues
Terence Trent D'Arby --- Introducing the hardline according to...
Pulp --- Different class
Judas Priest --- British Steel
The Jesus and Mary Chain --- Psychocandy
Funkadelic --- Maggot brain
Faith No More --- Angel dust
Slowdive --- Souvlaki
Sisters of Mercy --- Floodlands
Talking Heads --- Remain in Light
Arcade Fire --- Funeral
Neutral Milk Hotel --- In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Sonic Youth --- Daydream Nation
Wilco --- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Can --- Tago mago
Tom Petty --- Damn the torpedoes
The Antlers --- Hospice
Gang of Four --- Entertainment!
Of Montreal --- Hissing fauna, are you the destroyer?
Pavement -- Crooked rain, crooked rain
The Auteurs --- New wave

I was due, according to the list sequence, to listen to PIL next but I can't be bothered with that at the moment, so I'm choosing one at random. Stay tuned to find out which one! (Yeah, like you care...)

Pet_Sounds · 09-23-2014, 05:23 PM

You MUST hear Blood on the Tracks and Bridge Over Troubled Water. Especially BOTW. Well, what are you waiting for?

EDIT: Also After the Gold Rush. All fantastic albums.

Isbjørn · 09-24-2014, 09:43 AM

Another Metallica album = Ride the Lightning.

04-02-2014, 12:41 PM	#242 (permalink)
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04-03-2014, 03:43 PM	#243 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Title: Californication Artiste: Red Hot Chili Peppers Year: 1999 Chronological position: Seventh album Previous experience of this artiste?: Bits here and there; listened (with one ear) to their greatest hits Why is this considered a classic? Their most commercially successful album, it also saw the return of guitarist John Frusciante after an extended period in rehab. He's credited with changing the Peppers' complete musical sound. Apparently. My thoughts One minute (or thereabouts in) ---- Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other? Meh One track in --- Meh Halfway through --- Good Finished --- Good to meh, hard to decide really. Comments: I'v enever been that big a fan of RHCP. Not that I don't like them or think they're a good band, but that's just it: I think they're a good band, but not a great band. Mind you, I haven't heard enough of their music really to be making that sort of judgement, but given the adulation tracks like “Under the bridge” and “Give it away” received I was left sort of shrugging my shoulders and asking why? I don't care for the opener --- too much rap in it for me, and you know how I feel about that! --- but the second is good. But just good, not great. Not yet anyway. I've heard Scar tissue and like that, more rap in Get on top, bit of funk too which again really isn't my thing but I see it was theirs in the past. I of course know the title and do like that a lot, and Emit remmus (guffaw!) is good hard rock with a sort of Clash-ish sense of anger in it. More funk in I like dirt; it's okay but I don't. Like it, that is. I do like Saviour though but hate Purple stain. And so it goes. It's not really an album of enough strong tracks to impress me personally. Just all right, I guess. I remember hearing Road trippin' and liking that, and there's no change here, so a good closer. But it doesn't do enough to override the tracks I don't like. Favourite track(s): Parallel universe, Otherside, Californication, Emit remmus, Saviour, Road trippin' Least favourite track(s): Around the world, Get on top, Purple stain (Seeing a pattern here? ) Right on time Final impression --- Yeah, a decent album but it's got a lot of weak points for me. Probably too many tracks as well. I suppose I'd have to know more about them to comment on the change in musical direction, but it's not really an album I'd be in too much of a rush to go back to, to be honest. Sexual innuendos are a little too close to the bone for me and not at all clever; too in-your-face, as it were. Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? Gotta say E on this occasion. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

04-03-2014, 03:57 PM	#244 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	"Space may be the final frontier but it's made in a hollywood basement" I always liked that line in californication. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

04-06-2014, 05:59 AM	#246 (permalink)
Astronomer we are stardust Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,894	I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't love Californication, I do love some of the lines in the title song though. __________________

09-23-2014, 03:01 PM	#248 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Man I'm working hard on Metal Month II, but it must be time to rejuvenate this ol' journal again, so here first of all is an updated list. Which I'm not going to follow. More after. The list so far. Albums in GREEN have been reviewed already. The White Stripes --- Elephant ZZ Top --- Tres hombres Lynyrd Skynyrd --- Pronounced... RHCP --- Californication David Bowie --- Low Massive Attack --- Mezzanine PIL --- Metal box Peter Tosh --- Wanted dread or alive Captain Beefheart --- Trout Mask replica Earth Wind and Fire --- That's the way of the world Janet Jackson --- Rhythm nation 1814 The Clash --- London calling Yes --- Close to the edge Slayer --- Reign in blood Moby --- Play Pink Floyd --- Animals (This has been removed as I have already listened to it independently of this journal in the intervening months) The Smiths --- The queen is dead REM --- Automatic for the people U2 --- The Joshua Tree My Bloody Valentine --- Loveless AC/DC --- Back in black Neil Young --- After the gold rush Paul Simon --- Graceland Stevie Wonder --- Songs in the key of life Simon and Garfunkel --- Bridge over troubled water Bob Marley --- Exodus Nirvana --- Nevermind Bob Dylan --- Blood on the tracks Michael Jackson --- Thriller (I've decided not to bother with this, as really there are only about three tracks on it that I don't know, so it kind of goes against the spirit of what I'm trying to do here. I also looked at Bad, but same thing really. So I think I'll just pass on Jackson; his music is too mainstream and commercial for me not to really have heard, in one way or another, his albums regarded as classics) Metallica --- Master of puppets (Reviewed for Metal Month '13, so no longer a valid choice. May replace with another Metallica. Suggestions?) Human League --- Dare! ELP --- Tarkus (Note 5) ABC --- The lexicon of love Kate Bush --- The hounds of love Waterboys --- Fisherman's blues Terence Trent D'Arby --- Introducing the hardline according to... Pulp --- Different class Judas Priest --- British Steel The Jesus and Mary Chain --- Psychocandy Funkadelic --- Maggot brain Faith No More --- Angel dust Slowdive --- Souvlaki Sisters of Mercy --- Floodlands Talking Heads --- Remain in Light Arcade Fire --- Funeral Neutral Milk Hotel --- In the Aeroplane Over the Sea Sonic Youth --- Daydream Nation Wilco --- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot Can --- Tago mago Tom Petty --- Damn the torpedoes The Antlers --- Hospice Gang of Four --- Entertainment! Of Montreal --- Hissing fauna, are you the destroyer? Pavement -- Crooked rain, crooked rain The Auteurs --- New wave I was due, according to the list sequence, to listen to PIL next but I can't be bothered with that at the moment, so I'm choosing one at random. Stay tuned to find out which one! (Yeah, like you care...) __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018 Last edited by Trollheart; 02-26-2015 at 02:09 PM.

09-23-2014, 05:23 PM	#249 (permalink)
Pet_Sounds Remember the underscore Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The other side Posts: 2,489	You MUST hear Blood on the Tracks and Bridge Over Troubled Water. Especially BOTW. Well, what are you waiting for? EDIT: Also After the Gold Rush. All fantastic albums. __________________ Everybody's dying just to get the disease Last edited by Pet_Sounds; 09-23-2014 at 08:32 PM.

09-24-2014, 09:43 AM	#250 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Another Metallica album = Ride the Lightning. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal