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Old 02-28-2015, 05:34 AM   #401 (permalink)
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Might I recommend Weezer's Blue Album and Pinkerton? I prefer Pinkerton, but others will tell you Blue is superior. If not, that's cool, I see you already have quite the queue.
Okay, will add to the list. Anyone else any opinion on which one I should do?
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I think instead of PIL's Metal Box you should listen to Flowers of Romance or First Issue. There's a possibility that you might like those two but (as much as I love the album) I don't see you taking any liking to Metal Box.
Noted thanks. Not looking forward to PIL, so anything that makes it less of an ordeal is welcome.
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Radio City rocks harder and it has their best song. Pick that one.
If youses guys don't decides I'm just gonna flips a coins!
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:06 PM   #402 (permalink)
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I really want to see Trollheart say something nice about Post-Punk, but I'm convinced giving Metal Box or anything PIL really will just push him in the opposite direction.
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Old 02-28-2015, 06:50 PM   #403 (permalink)
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Title: Crooked rain, crooked rain
Artiste: Pavement
Year: 1994
Chronological position: Second album
Previous experience of this artiste?: Zero
Why is this considered a classic? Cos Surell says so!

My thoughts
One minute (or thereabouts in) ---- Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other? Good
One track in --- Good
Halfway through --- Good
Finished --- Good

Comments: There’s been some recent discussion as to which of Pavement’s albums I should listen to, and I can’t say as I have never even heard of them before. But Surell asked me to listen to this one, so I’m honouring that request despite some attempts to change my mind. Nice driving rhythm to start us off with a heavy striding guitar, and the vocal then reminds me of early Bono (shut up) … which gets a little on my nerves rather quickly I must admit. I don’t like “Stop breathin’” much; the sort of off-tune guitar is a little annoying. Mind you, the guitar interlude in the middle is quite nice, and sort of makes up for it. Yeah but then it goes out of tune again. Teeth grinding.

“Newark wilder” is a nice tune, low-key, laidback, sort of like something the Eagles would do in their bluesier moments maybe, nice keys on it. “Unfair”’s good too, lot more energy to it, good riffs, but I don’t know; maybe I’m just getting harder to please. I’m not feeling it here at all. The jazzy Waits-style piano instrumental doesn’t help, though “Range life” does. I really like this one. Definitely my favourite so far. “Heaven is a truck” is pretty good too. Looks like they saved the better material for nearer the end of the album.

Ah, but then “Hit the plane down” is another teeth-grinder, bloody hate it, which leaves us with one more track, thankfully finishing on a high note with a nice lazy almost acoustic ballad.

Favourite track(s): Silence kid, Newark wilder, Range life, Heaven is a truck, Fillmore jive
Least favourite track(s): 5-4=Unity, Gold soundz, Cut your hair, Hit the plane down

Final impression --- At times I didn’t care, at other times it was an ordeal. There were some bright spots but not enough for me to have considered this a positive experience. I wouldn’t say I hated it but I certainly did not love it.

Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?
G) Enjoyed this album just purely on its own merits
H) Glad I listened to it


I think I would have to say E at this point.
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Old 02-28-2015, 07:58 PM   #404 (permalink)
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If I can offer a brief rebuttal to Pet_Sounds:
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Do the debut, #1 Record. It's the natural place to start,
Eh. All three are sort of different beasts. I think you can easily enjoy Radio City without having heard #1 Record first (although I probably wouldn't listen to Third without having heard the first two).
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and I think you're more likely to enjoy it than Radio City or Third.
I disagree - like I said, Radio City rocks harder, plus it's more consistent as an album. It's a little weirder, I guess, but it has their two best straightforward pop-rock songs, "Back of a Car" and "September Gurls", on it.
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Plus, if you like it, you can listen to all three in chronological order and thus hear their evolution.
He's already said he's only listening to one. Therefore priority should be which one he'll most immediately like, and that's Radio City.

(Also, #1 Record has "The India Song", so yeah that's the one bad Big Star song.)
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I really want to see Trollheart say something nice about Post-Punk, but I'm convinced giving Metal Box or anything PIL really will just push him in the opposite direction.
Pere Ubu - Dub Housing maybe?

There's a chance that TH will enjoy the new The Pop Group album Citizen Zombie as well.
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Pere Ubu - Dub Housing maybe?

There's a chance that TH will enjoy the new The Pop Group album Citizen Zombie as well.
The problem here is that this is "classic albums", and no matter what, you can't call an album released this year a classic. Well you can, but it doesn't fit into the framework I have here. Pere Ubu, I don't know: is that a classic album? Are you guy trying to push me towards opening a new journal: "Trollheart does Post Punk"??

I may however take that CZ under the recs thread, when I have time. As Khan told Kirk in Star Trek II: "Time is a luxury you do not have!"
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Pere Ubu - Dub Housing maybe?

There's a chance that TH will enjoy the new The Pop Group album Citizen Zombie as well.
I could see him digging those more than PIL. The Sex Pistols connection will largely be a turn off, and Lydon's voice can be grating even for me.
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I may however take that CZ under the recs thread, when I have time. As Khan told Kirk in Star Trek II: "Time is a luxury you do not have!"

You keep saying this in almost every journal but you post about 70 entries a week. Give it a month or so and you'll be asking for more recs.
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The problem here is that this is "classic albums", and no matter what, you can't call an album released this year a classic. Well you can, but it doesn't fit into the framework I have here. Pere Ubu, I don't know: is that a classic album? Are you guy trying to push me towards opening a new journal: "Trollheart does Post Punk"??

I may however take that CZ under the recs thread, when I have time. As Khan told Kirk in Star Trek II: "Time is a luxury you do not have!"
Dub Housing is a classic. So is Y by the Pop Group, but it's even harder to imagine you liking that.
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Dub Housing is certainly a classic album.
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