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Isbjørn · 01-17-2014, 11:17 AM

After two albums recommended by Manky in a row (and there are a couple more to come), here's one from Taxman.

Title: #1 Record
Artist: Big Star
Year: 1972
Genre: Rock, power pop
Chronological position: Debut album
Previous experience: Slight annoyance when trying to search for the Jayhawks song, nothing else really
Why is this considered a classic? Don't know, I've barely even heard of these guys before

My thoughts(good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?):
First minute: Good
One track in: Great
Halfway through: Good
Finished: Good

I think this sounds a bit like The Beatles; no wonder why Taxman likes these guys. That's definitely not a bad thing. I really like “Thirteen”, great ballad, and the rock-out following it, “Don't Lie to Me”, too. And I think I'll love the rest.

Yup, I did.

Favourite track(s): “Thirteen”
Least favourite track(s): Don't think anything was bad enough to place here

Final impression: Very good album. If I'm in the mood for some simple catchy rock music that sounds like The Beatles, I'll put this on.

Do I feel, at the end,
A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

Probably A. If not fully a classic, it's not far away either.

Isbjørn · 01-18-2014, 05:14 AM

Another recommendation from Taxman. I've actually owned this album, as a part of the 1990-2009 box set, for half a year now (actually, that'd be quite accurate), but I haven't listened to it yet. Yes, I do own the box set, because I like Green Day. Mostly their first three albums, though. Anyway...

Title: Warning
Artist: Green Day
Year: 2000
Chronological position: Sixth album
Previous experience of this artist: First three albums, American Idiot, and the hits
Why is this considered a classic? Not sure if it is, but I'm including it anyway

My thoughts (Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?)
One minute in: Meh (I've heard this so many times, and the riff is clearly lifted from a song by the Kinks)
One track in: Still waiting
Halfway through: Okay
Finished: Okay

Having heard the singles from this album, I think I know what to expect. After the first couple of tracks, it's clear that the band had decided to implement some folk elements into their music, also the music is way more radio-friendly (in terms of loudness and lyrics) than their early albums. Halfway through, and I can tell this is not going to be a favourite of mine, but it's not really bad either. I think the word “alright” is a sufficient descriptor.

Favourite track(s): “Minority” and the gypsy-like “Misery”
Least favourite track(s) “Warning”, for being a boring Kinks copy

Final impression: Again, it's alright. Nothing special.

Do I feel, at the end,
A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

I'll give this an E. I'm not in any way sorry I'm bothered, because now I have more to discuss about Green Day.

By the way, you should note that even though it's Classic Albums I Have Never Heard that I'm ripping off, I'll not limit this to albums that'd be considered classic. I'm trying to get through a written list of albums that I have not heard for whatever reason, some of which have been recommended to me by other members. Many of them can be considered classics in one way or another, but not this one, for instance.

Isbjørn · 01-18-2014, 08:14 AM

This is one of the albums on my list that I've been looking the most forward to hearing. Why did I even hesitate?*

Title: The Number of the Beast
Artist: Iron Maiden
Year: 1982
Chronological position: Third album
Previous experience of artist: All studio albums up until Somewhere in Time, except for this one of course
Why is this considered a classic? It was the band's first album to reach #1 on the UK Albums chart, and their first featuring Bruce Dickinson as their vocalist. It is one of the most influential metal albums of all time.

My thoughts (Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?)
One minute in: Great
One track in: Great
Halfway through: Great
Finished: Great

Having heard the three most popular songs from this album (the singles and “Hallowed be Thy Name”), I did not expect the opening track to be so... I don't know, simple and NWOBHM-ish. Sounds surprisingly much like Killers to me. So far I've only heard Maiden's earliest albums, and the three following this one. Therefore it's exciting to see how the gap between sounds like. “22 Acacia Avenue” mentions Charlotte, sounds familiar..! Instead of being the standard sexist metal song, this is the contrary, living up to Iron Maidens reputation as the “thinking man's metal band”, as I've seen Trollheart call them.

Favourite track(s): Don't know, maybe “Hallowed be Thy Name”
Least favourite track(s) N/A

Do I feel, at the end,
A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

Yup, this is definitely a classic. I loved it from start to finish, a straight A! No idea how Janszoon can NOT yell along with the chorus of the title track.

*that was written AFTER hearing the album, unlike the intros of the other entries in this section

Isbjørn · 01-19-2014, 06:48 AM

Title: Vol. 4
Artist: Black Sabbath
Year: 1972
Chronological position: Fourth album (obviously)
Previous experience of artist: First three albums
Why is this considered a classic? It's by Black Sabbath, and they took a new direction with it

My thoughts (Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?)
One minute in: Good
One track in: Good
Halfway through: Still waiting
Finished: Okay

The guitars seem to be tuned down, they sound dark and sludgy. The fourth track, “FX”, seems to be nothing but pointless noises intended to haunt me in my dreams, so the beginning of track five, “Supernaut” is a moment of relief. Anyway, I don't think this album is going to be a favourite of mine. Maybe I'll grow on it, though.

Favourite track(s): “Changes”, probably
Least favourite track(s): No idea

Do I feel, at the end,
A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

I'll have to say C. I didn't like this immediately, I think it might need a couple of more listens. It's not bad, but in my opinion, out of their first four albums, this is the worst.

Isbjørn · 01-21-2014, 07:02 AM

There is no stopping me, Trollheart! January's not over yet!

Title: I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning

Artist: Bright Eyes

Year: 2005

Genre: Indie folk

Chronological position: Sixth album
Previous experience: Feature in emogame and some of the songs on this album
Why is this considered a classic? I'm not sure if it is, but I think a lot of hipsters would disagree

My thoughts(good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?):

One minute in: Still waiting

One track in: Great

Halfway: Good

Finished: Good

The album starts with a spoken intro, thus the “still waiting” on one minute in. But I know the rest of the song is amazing..! It is followed by one that is pretty mediocre in comparison, creating some contrast. It's not a bad song, but not nearly as good as the first one, in my opinion. Luckily, it has a couple of good follow-ups, especially “Lua”.

Favourite track(s): “At the Bottom of Everything”, “Lua”, “First Day of My Life”
Least favourite track(s): “Another Travelin' Song” (for being out of place)

Do I feel, at the end,
A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

This is an F for me. It's a solid and alright album, I liked it, but you shouldn't consider it a classic unless you like to sit at Starbucks reading poetry.

Taxman · 01-21-2014, 10:33 PM

I've been busy last days, but I appreciate you listened to those albums I recommended. Nice you liked them too.

Taxman · 01-21-2014, 10:37 PM

And talking about Kinks, their albums from,Face To Face to Arthur are awesome. I started with Arthur, it's more rocking one and is easier to get into.

And if you considered Warning as a Kinks-rip-off, I'll tell a secret: Waiting is a bit rip off too, it sounds like Downtown, a very old pop song by some female whose name I cannot remember now.

Isbjørn · 01-22-2014, 02:42 AM

Green Day have a thing with ripping people off. I'll write Arthur up on my list when I get home, and listen to it later.

Isbjørn · 01-24-2014, 10:11 AM

Title: Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire)
Artist: The Kinks
Year: 1969
Genre: Rock
Chronological position: Seventh album
Previous experience: A couple of hits
Why is this considered a classic? Ask Taxman

My thoughts (good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?):
One minute in: Good
One track in: Still waiting
Halfway: Great
Finished: Great

At the very beginning the lyrics make it seem as if this album is going to be patriotic, but the two next songs are about military and war. The verses are catchy, and so are the choruses, but the vocals sound a bit... unpolished? I don't mind much, though, some people manage to pull that off and these guys seem to be among them. With that, and the lyrical themes, maybe if this was released in the late seventies, and played a bit louder, it could've been considered punk?

Favourite track(s): “Some Mother's Son”, “Shangri-La”
Least favourite track(s): None

Do I feel, at the end,
A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

This is an A, and thank you, Taxman, for recommending me this!

Isbjørn · 01-26-2014, 05:30 AM

Title: Let it Bleed
Artist: The Rolling Stones
Year: 1969
Genre: Rock
Chronological position: Eighth album
Previous experience: Greatest hits album (GRRR!)
Why is this considered a classic? It's said to be some of the best work by the Stones

My thoughts (good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?):
One minute in: Great
One track in: Great
Halfway: Great
Finished: Great

That intro is kickin' awesome! Dope rad! Fecking amazing! “Gimme Shelter” is such a great song that I have a hard time believing that the rest of the album can be as good. But what do I know..? Okay, halfway through, and it's all been pretty great so far. You know what, the second half was good too.

Favourite track(s): "Gimme Shelter", "Country Honk", "You Can't Always Get What You Want", "Let it Bleed"
Least favourite track(s): Really? Do I have to?

Do I feel, at the end,
A) I wish I had listened to this sooner
B) I'm sorry I bothered
C) I might end up liking this
D) Have to wait and see
E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic?
F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic?

I'll say A, and thank the person who recommended me this though I don't really remember who it was..!

01-17-2014, 11:17 AM	#41 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	After two albums recommended by Manky in a row (and there are a couple more to come), here's one from Taxman. Title: #1 Record Artist: Big Star Year: 1972 Genre: Rock, power pop Chronological position: Debut album Previous experience: Slight annoyance when trying to search for the Jayhawks song, nothing else really Why is this considered a classic? Don't know, I've barely even heard of these guys before My thoughts(good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?): First minute: Good One track in: Great Halfway through: Good Finished: Good I think this sounds a bit like The Beatles; no wonder why Taxman likes these guys. That's definitely not a bad thing. I really like “Thirteen”, great ballad, and the rock-out following it, “Don't Lie to Me”, too. And I think I'll love the rest. Yup, I did. Favourite track(s): “Thirteen” Least favourite track(s): Don't think anything was bad enough to place here Final impression: Very good album. If I'm in the mood for some simple catchy rock music that sounds like The Beatles, I'll put this on. *Do I feel, at the end,* A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? Probably A. If not fully a classic, it's not far away either. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal Last edited by Isbjørn; 01-17-2014 at 11:33 AM.

01-18-2014, 05:14 AM	#42 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Another recommendation from Taxman. I've actually owned this album, as a part of the 1990-2009 box set, for half a year now (actually, that'd be quite accurate), but I haven't listened to it yet. Yes, I do own the box set, because I like Green Day. Mostly their first three albums, though. Anyway... Title: Warning Artist: Green Day Year: 2000 Chronological position: Sixth album Previous experience of this artist: First three albums, American Idiot, and the hits Why is this considered a classic? Not sure if it is, but I'm including it anyway My thoughts (Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?) One minute in: Meh (I've heard this so many times, and the riff is clearly lifted from a song by the Kinks) One track in: Still waiting Halfway through: Okay Finished: Okay Having heard the singles from this album, I think I know what to expect. After the first couple of tracks, it's clear that the band had decided to implement some folk elements into their music, also the music is way more radio-friendly (in terms of loudness and lyrics) than their early albums. Halfway through, and I can tell this is not going to be a favourite of mine, but it's not really bad either. I think the word “alright” is a sufficient descriptor. Favourite track(s): “Minority” and the gypsy-like “Misery” Least favourite track(s) “Warning”, for being a boring Kinks copy Final impression: Again, it's alright. Nothing special. *Do I feel, at the end,* A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? I'll give this an E. I'm not in any way sorry I'm bothered, because now I have more to discuss about Green Day. By the way, you should note that even though it's Classic Albums I Have Never Heard that I'm ripping off, I'll not limit this to albums that'd be considered classic. I'm trying to get through a written list of albums that I have not heard for whatever reason, some of which have been recommended to me by other members. Many of them can be considered classics in one way or another, but not this one, for instance. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-18-2014, 08:14 AM	#43 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	This is one of the albums on my list that I've been looking the most forward to hearing. Why did I even hesitate?* Title: The Number of the Beast Artist: Iron Maiden Year: 1982 Chronological position: Third album Previous experience of artist: All studio albums up until Somewhere in Time, except for this one of course Why is this considered a classic? It was the band's first album to reach #1 on the UK Albums chart, and their first featuring Bruce Dickinson as their vocalist. It is one of the most influential metal albums of all time. My thoughts (Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?) One minute in: Great One track in: Great Halfway through: Great Finished: Great Having heard the three most popular songs from this album (the singles and “Hallowed be Thy Name”), I did not expect the opening track to be so... I don't know, simple and NWOBHM-ish. Sounds surprisingly much like Killers to me. So far I've only heard Maiden's earliest albums, and the three following this one. Therefore it's exciting to see how the gap between sounds like. “22 Acacia Avenue” mentions Charlotte, sounds familiar..! Instead of being the standard sexist metal song, this is the contrary, living up to Iron Maidens reputation as the “thinking man's metal band”, as I've seen Trollheart call them. Favourite track(s): Don't know, maybe “Hallowed be Thy Name” Least favourite track(s) N/A Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? Yup, this is definitely a classic. I loved it from start to finish, a straight A! No idea how Janszoon can NOT yell along with the chorus of the title track. *that was written AFTER hearing the album, unlike the intros of the other entries in this section __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-19-2014, 06:48 AM	#44 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Title: Vol. 4 Artist: Black Sabbath Year: 1972 Chronological position: Fourth album (obviously) Previous experience of artist: First three albums Why is this considered a classic? It's by Black Sabbath, and they took a new direction with it My thoughts (Good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?) One minute in: Good One track in: Good Halfway through: Still waiting Finished: Okay The guitars seem to be tuned down, they sound dark and sludgy. The fourth track, “FX”, seems to be nothing but pointless noises intended to haunt me in my dreams, so the beginning of track five, “Supernaut” is a moment of relief. Anyway, I don't think this album is going to be a favourite of mine. Maybe I'll grow on it, though. Favourite track(s): “Changes”, probably Least favourite track(s): No idea *Do I feel, at the end,* A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? I'll have to say C. I didn't like this immediately, I think it might need a couple of more listens. It's not bad, but in my opinion, out of their first four albums, this is the worst. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-21-2014, 07:02 AM	#45 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	There is no stopping me, Trollheart! January's not over yet! Title: I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning Artist: Bright Eyes Year: 2005 Genre: Indie folk Chronological position: Sixth album Previous experience: Feature in emogame and some of the songs on this album Why is this considered a classic? I'm not sure if it is, but I think a lot of hipsters would disagree My thoughts(good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?): One minute in: Still waiting One track in: Great Halfway: Good Finished: Good The album starts with a spoken intro, thus the “still waiting” on one minute in. But I know the rest of the song is amazing..! It is followed by one that is pretty mediocre in comparison, creating some contrast. It's not a bad song, but not nearly as good as the first one, in my opinion. Luckily, it has a couple of good follow-ups, especially “Lua”. Favourite track(s): “At the Bottom of Everything”, “Lua”, “First Day of My Life” Least favourite track(s): “Another Travelin' Song” (for being out of place) *Do I feel, at the end,* A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? This is an F for me. It's a solid and alright album, I liked it, but you shouldn't consider it a classic unless you like to sit at Starbucks reading poetry. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-21-2014, 10:33 PM	#46 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	I've been busy last days, but I appreciate you listened to those albums I recommended. Nice you liked them too. __________________ ...

01-21-2014, 10:37 PM	#47 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	And talking about Kinks, their albums from,Face To Face to Arthur are awesome. I started with Arthur, it's more rocking one and is easier to get into. And if you considered Warning as a Kinks-rip-off, I'll tell a secret: Waiting is a bit rip off too, it sounds like Downtown, a very old pop song by some female whose name I cannot remember now. __________________ ...

01-22-2014, 02:42 AM	#48 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Green Day have a thing with ripping people off. I'll write Arthur up on my list when I get home, and listen to it later. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-24-2014, 10:11 AM	#49 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Title: Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire) Artist: The Kinks Year: 1969 Genre: Rock Chronological position: Seventh album Previous experience: A couple of hits Why is this considered a classic? Ask Taxman My thoughts (good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?): One minute in: Good One track in: Still waiting Halfway: Great Finished: Great At the very beginning the lyrics make it seem as if this album is going to be patriotic, but the two next songs are about military and war. The verses are catchy, and so are the choruses, but the vocals sound a bit... unpolished? I don't mind much, though, some people manage to pull that off and these guys seem to be among them. With that, and the lyrical themes, maybe if this was released in the late seventies, and played a bit louder, it could've been considered punk? Favourite track(s): “Some Mother's Son”, “Shangri-La” Least favourite track(s): None Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? This is an A, and thank you, Taxman, for recommending me this! __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

01-26-2014, 05:30 AM	#50 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Title: Let it Bleed Artist: The Rolling Stones Year: 1969 Genre: Rock Chronological position: Eighth album Previous experience: Greatest hits album (GRRR!) Why is this considered a classic? It's said to be some of the best work by the Stones My thoughts (good, great, bad, meh, still waiting or other?): One minute in: Great One track in: Great Halfway: Great Finished: Great That intro is kickin' awesome! Dope rad! Fecking amazing! “Gimme Shelter” is such a great song that I have a hard time believing that the rest of the album can be as good. But what do I know..? Okay, halfway through, and it's all been pretty great so far. You know what, the second half was good too. Favourite track(s): "Gimme Shelter", "Country Honk", "You Can't Always Get What You Want", "Let it Bleed" Least favourite track(s): Really? Do I have to? Do I feel, at the end, A) I wish I had listened to this sooner B) I'm sorry I bothered C) I might end up liking this D) Have to wait and see E) Bit underwhelmed; was ok but a classic? F) Definitely enjoyed it, but again would I consider it a classic? I'll say A, and thank the person who recommended me this though I don't really remember who it was..! __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal