What's your point?

Don't worry about it. You don't have to be bullied the same way that kids/teens are today so you wouldn't understand.

As usual I agree fully with what you are saying. TO make it personal I will add this...I was bullied a ton as a kid. Did I like it, **** No. Did it make most of elementry, middle, and high school absolutely awful...yes. But if it wasnt for that I would never have learned to stand up for myself. I realize now that how people treat you is up to YOU not THEM, if you demand respect you will get it. If some parent or someone had stepped in every time I got bullied and treated me like the little pussie I was I would not have turned out as well as I think I have today.

edit: I would like to add however that as DJ said bullying on the internet has gotten way out of hand. Although it would seem most cases are because the original person was a complete moron. Take for example the girl who dressed up like the boston bombing victim. Sure people should not have started threatening her life and sending her nudes all over the internet and to her house....but if she wasnt an absolute retard in the first place that would have never happened. It isnt like totally innocent people are getting bullied to that extreme.

Totally innocent people are getting bullied to the extreme. There is a reason why they are committing suicide more and more.

I've heard about a few stories over the past few months of girls killing themselves over death threats from their peers that followed them from school to online.

The girls end up getting arrested that did the threaten and parents have that same mentality that buttface and batty has where they think their kids didn't do anything wrong and that kids these days need to toughen up. STFU and discipline your own children. I feel like they should be held accountable for the actions of their children. Take it to the extreme and jail the parents as well.

I'm still not entirely sure the point you're making. If you're saying that ending bullying is a good thing then I agree. My point is that the way this whole new fad is going about it is short-sighted, lazy, and mindless. It's people basically saying that bullying is bad and therefore it should be stopped and then they stop thinking because they've gotten their pseudo-activist thrill for the day. The entire mentality behind bullying is too pervasive in society and too complex to be fixed with a few Facebook updates or a few episodes of Glee. Until society actually makes this a legitimate priority and starts allocating actual time, effort, expertise from the medical and psychological communities, commits to sweeping changes throughout society rather than just the school systems, and blah, blah, blah, then we're all just pissing in the wind so our feet will feel warm.

If this whole anti-bullying fad is good for much of anything besides a few small gains here and there it's that it's a sign that society is slowly changing their mentality about the issue. That gives me hope, but I don't think we're going to get the quick fix that a lot of people seem to be hoping for. And in the meantime I'm not going to let my hypothetical children suffer for it.

My point is that bullying is different, way worse and more vicious than when you had to suffer through it. It is really different. It doesn't just go away with punching the one in the face that is going around bullying you to make you stop. It has dwarfed to a whole new level and that's why there is such an aggressive campaign nowadays to combat bullying period.

I dont disagree with most of what you are saying but I think the reason for all the anti bully campaigns nowadays is because of todays feminine led societal values. Bully my son? You're sued.

First of all, what Rez said, although I would say it has more to do with liberal values in general rather than specifically feminist values, secondly, I doubt you know any more about modern bullying than I do so how do you know that your claim that it is "way worse" isn't just being influenced by media hype? Maybe it is worse, but it's still a fad that will die down in time the same way the Kony 2012 thing did. It may take longer simply because it actually has something to do with "us" rather than someplace halfway across the world, but America's attention span is finite and we will eventually tire of this topic. And then we'll be left will half-baked laws and regulations that will probably affect bullying about as much as the war on drugs stops those same kids from smoking weed.

I was watching judge judy the other day. One mom sued another because their sons got in a fight during a neighbirhood football game. Thats where we are at.

There's a lot of truth in comedy. I cant recall verbatim but in a Bill Burr stand up special he jokes about how women often get away with absurdity because men want to get laid so they let stuff slide.

So you end up with women plus half the men who are pussy whipped agreeing on these pussy values vs the other men. So its 75 vs 25.

At work til tonight but later I will update with more examples of figurative castration and some nostalgic music stuff

I will start off here with a news story from a month or two ago that I believe I posted in the gun control thread. In short, a scumbag was trying to steal a truck. The truck owner was a Marine and confronted the thief. Guns were drawn and the Marine pumped some steel into scumbag's chest. Scumbag died. Of course the anti-gun pussies of this website and the world in general, would rather let some random loser steal your ride than defend your property.

Here's the story link. Score one for the good guys.

I just can't stand these bleeding heart pussies who don't want a person to be able to defend themselves or property. I was actually reading about a guy who stabbed a burglar 12 times and died, but he went to jail. That story led me to the story of Tony Martin, and English farmer who shot and killed a thief. He went to jail for a few years. WTF is wrong with this world? I swear we make it way too easy for the bad guys to win. Way too many apologists for losers and scumbags, always willing to give them the benefit of the doubt (for some reason). It's never their fault, it's always that 'the system failed them.' I wish to wipe that shart stain of a phrase from the face of the Earth. It's such a cop-out and nobody who says it has any idea what they are even saying.

tl:dr Be awesome; kill bad guys.

Also, video from masterclass real life troll Dick Masterson:




So back to music. Dashboard Confessional and The Used are as far down the pussyometer that I have ever been willing to go. Unfortunately, that's pretty close to the end of the meter. Somewhere between wearing pink and watching romantic comedies alone. I had always gone for the uptempo emo-pop-punk stuff, but in the early-mid 2000s Dashboard became pretty hard to ignore for me. I was obsessed with this chick who listened to Dashboard Confessional and Something Corporate. So I bought us tickets to a Dashboard show (can't remember who opened). Turns out she cancelled and I went with my best friend and his girl at the time. That wasn't weird or awkward. This is also a great opportunity for me to say something. Danielle, if you're reading this, I am extending the offer for you to choke down my kielbasa. I might be a decade too late, but you flaked on that concert and I feel like it's a good gesture of repayment. Do the right thing. Be a good person.

Anyway, I feel like Dashboard became kind of a symbol of emo of that era after their 2nd album and kind of the start of the early 2000s heavy marketing of the genre. They weren't a real great poster-boy for it in all honesty. A lot of their lyrics sound like Chris Carabba lifted them from 14 year olds on an "Introduction to Poetry" message board. They didn't really have that hardcore or punk influenced sound, and in all honesty they probably marked the starting point in time where a lot of the older emo bands and originators started disassociating themselves with the genre.



Haven't really followed or cared about them since I was a teenager aside from their hit singles over the years. Very rarely will go back and jam to some tunes I remember well from high school.