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What is This Journal?

This is a place for me to write about 2 things. 1) Music, which will most likely be emo or emo influenced. Instead of reviewing albums, I will just be writing about bands I've been listening to and posting a couple songs or bullshitting about whatever I want about them. 2) Bitch about and add commentary on things that I think contribute to the Pussification of America. Maybe this will lead to less bitching on the rest of the forum from me. Maybe not. But I can't take it anymore and need this release. If a man lives with 6 women in a home, he needs his man cave. Musicbanter is that house and this is my man cave. I hope others will find some things as ridiculous as I do, and can help recommend me songs and bands based on my tastes. My short-lived Emo Journal didn't work out, but even in that short time I had a lot of people comment or message me about music, which was cool.

Speaking of that Emo Journal, whats up with that, man?

What's up with it is that it was a bad idea. It was a bad idea from the aspect that I am not working for a music review site. Trollheart can sit there a beautifully type out visual descriptions of songs and albums. I can't find the words for it, and because I am learning emo in reverse, there's not a lot of prior knowledge to draw from for comparisons. So consider it done. Also, consider the rap Journal done, though it hardly started. Why? Cause I don't go on plug anymore to find random rap artists. Because half the rooms are Portuguese. And the other half slurp donkey cock.

What's with the title?

It's an Artie Lange quote and he kicks ass. I don't hate therapy or people who use it, but it fits. Let's goooooo.


What butthead aka 216 has been listening to lately:



So, like I said, I have been learning and listening to emo in reverse. Meaning that my first tastes of emo were all 3rd-wave emo and other emo-influenced bands of that time period. Taking Back Sunday, Brand New, Motion City Soundtrack, Dashboard Confessional, Alkaline Trio, The Used, Death Cab, etc. Before you snicker at my terrible music tastes or think up a snarky reply about how half of those bands aren't emo, please tongue my taint because I don't care and I am trying to give the idea of what music listening background I am coming from.

So anyways, I feel like a dipshit for never really listening to bands like The Get Up Kids before. Just one of hundreds of bands I had been recommended over the years and told myself I would eventually listen to. It's funny now that I can see their influence on bands like Motion City Soundtrack with the synth usage. To me, the synth just blends in nicely with some darker tones mixed with a pop-emo/punk/whatever sound.

Their second album, Something To Write Home About, sounds a lot different than the handful of songs I heard from Four Minute Mile. Different because of the synthesizer keyboards. Basically what happened was the guy from Reggie and the Full Effect joined up to create bonerrific tunes. I've yet to really listen to much past their 2nd album and I am looking forward to it.

Here's another favorite of mine from the album:




So before The Get Up Kids were delivering half chubs to my boxers, I first started listening to Jets To Brazil. A few months back I googled "Best emo bands" and got a list of feces made by goth 15 year old chicks. I saw Aiden on the list, briefly considered suicide, then aimlessly clicked some Google links until I found some random forum that seemed to take their music seriously (don't worry, wasn't MB). What I found was a Top 100 list of all-time great Emo songs. At the top was Jets To Brazil - Sweet Avenue. I listened to it and loved it more than a post-sex piss. So I listened to more and was really feeling it. When I Googled "Artists like Jets to Brazil," a band called Knapsack came up, who I'd never heard of. I decided to make them the subject for my 2nd emo journal review which never happened.

I listened to the This Conversation is Over Starting Right Now album and thought it was the equivalent to a Carmer Electra tittyfuck. If you've been in plug with me, you've heard this song several times:




If you haven't been in plug with me, you're likely a turd. But here's another song from the album:



I'm not even sure why I am really digging emo music. I don't really relate to any of the lyrics anymore and haven't for several years. Maybe it's best to just not try to figure it out. Maybe I am actually a 16 year old confused kid time travelling from 2001 with a lot of time on his hands to create alternate identities to fool internet strangers and gain nothing from it.

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Facial expression of most of society when someone calls them a name they don't like.

Since I'm not always great at segways... Fuck all this bullying shit. I feel like parents in this country are consciously making an effort to turn their children into complete vaginas. Pretty soon the penises of young boys will start falling off and their bodies will regenerate big floppy twats in their places by the time they have reached middle school. A few weeks back, some kid's whiny mom tried to castrate him by filing a 'bullying report' because his football team lost by too many points.

I really do long for the days when I could call sit at my computer while eating a turkey sandwich and call someone a fag or go kill themselves without worrying their gonna go down a bottle of bleach or turn their belt into a makeshift noose. But, we're at that point in society unfortunately and this story really struck a chord with me. Maybe because I played sports, maybe because I hate pussies, I can't be sure why. Sure, the team lost by 91 points, but at what point do we teach a kid the value of competition.... the value of learning to lose. Hell, my football team sucked the world's fattest cock. We didn't win a game my junior year, but nothing even came close to approaching a 91 point ass beating. But I understand why this team gets shat on if their whole team is comprised of kids whose parents are the type to file a bullying report for a loss. Practice running some routes, or tackling, or anything. Was this a blind school? I didn't even check. I hope it was.

Just wtf is up with bullying recently anyways. It's like the new trendy buzzword that everyone can get pseudo-offended by. There's even commercials for it. I want my future son to kick ass if he's bullied, not go tell a teacher. I remember my high school had a "no-tolerance" violence policy, and many other schools do too. So even if you defend yourself, you get suspended. Fuck these pussy rules. I got bullied one time and I put the kid in a submission leg lock, ripped his leg from his body, gnawed on it, used his blood as sauce, then took a dump on him before merrily strolling my way to the principal's office to get my suspension notice. Except when I got there she blew me first. The world needs more people like me.

It's even going on now with GROWN MEN. The pussyitis disease has spread to our adult males too. And not even the flamboyant fashionista limp-wristed ones. I am talking this garbage that's going on with the Dolphins where an offensive lineman got kicked off the team for 'bullying' a 300+ pound professional athlete. Then today, I flip on ESPN as usual and some random player for Rutgers is saying he left the team because the coach was too mean. I guess he wanted the following pregame speech before the big game: "Ok guys, lets go out there and play hard today. And if we don't win, at least you did your best! Even if we get blown out by 50, we can still go get crazy vanilla ice cream afterwards! Extra large waffle cones for everyone!!!" Excuse me while I slowly remove this pistol from between my teeth but what the hell is going on here?

For a bonus here's another sweet song from a band I am going to check out more.

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I don't at all concur with your life philosophy, but it's really good to see you writing. Never thought I'd see the day!

THERE'S what's up with the emo journal! Luckily you're still exploring emo, since I'm too (sort of) and haven't come much futher than The Get Up Kids myself...

As I believe the kids say these days, this is going to be epic! :thumb: Lookin' forward to it! :tramp:

Don't get me wrong, the idea that society is finally heading toward less violence and more understanding is great, but this whole Facebook, anti-bullying trend is annoying. It all seems to be more about self-righteous condemnation and whining than about giving any honest-to-god solutions. How do we deal with bullying? By stopping it apparently. Never mind that "bullying" and the mentality behind it is an intrinsic part of not just child but adult life as well. Apparently we don't need to deal with any other part of the equation that contributes to it, or the effects, or anything else, just the noogies.

Back when I was in school I had a counselor tell a group of kids that if they're being bullied that they should, among other ****turd advice, laugh with them when they're laughing at you. What's wrong with you? If I laughed with the guy who put me in a headlock I'd be considered either a ***got or a retard. Most likely both. What's the point of making sure your kid isn't being bullied if he becomes a social pariah who ends up hanging by his bed sheets because he can't deal with getting ****ed with without running off and crying to the school authorities? What's gonna happen when he's an adult and he can't deal with personal problems without seeking out someone else to intercede on his behalf? **** that. If your kid is being bullied, tell him to give the other kid a black eye. Sure his douchebag teachers might suspend him, but in the long run he'll be better off since he'll actually have the self-confidence to deal with his own problems.

And another thing, this whole "zero-tolerance" policy in schools is BS. They're not concerned with your child. The giant, bloated bureaucracy that runs the schools is just worried about accountability. If they say that they won't tolerate any violence whatsoever from any of the involved parties then they can't be sued by some whiny parent. The fact that the kids involved now have to deal with the fallout is apparently secondary to some ******* pencil pusher keeping his ****ty job.

The bolded part is hitting the nail on the head. It's the reason I loathe feminist tards. Because their agendas are really about self-righteous soapboxing, whining, and not offering any actual solutions. It's the same with bullying. People love feeling like victims.

I wish when I was in school, I had the mindset I have now and could see the bigger picture. I was never bullied, but there was a couple times where I wanted to beat the snot out of some kid. I didn't, because the threat of being suspended, which really only mattered to me because of being suspended from the sports teams. Looking back, I would gladly trade a 3 day suspension for a Mike Tyson uppercut to a few certain douchers.

Less violence, more understanding = good. But it shouldn't mean pacifism. Sometimes violence IS the answer is my train of thought. Not always as a first resort, but if some guy wants to come up and knock the books out of a kids hands, that kid should haul off and try to take his chin off of his face with a right hook. Most times in a fight, the more intense man wins, not the biggest. If you're adrenaline is through the roof and you catch a bigger guy off guard, you have a good shot.



So another band I've been starting to explore more is Texas is the Reason.

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Basically I was in Plug and we were talking about shows we had seen, and I remembered going to Warped Tour in 2007 and seeing New Found Glory play at one of the two main stages. And I remembered some gigantic 35 year old trying to beat up my buddy for bumping into his girlfriend. In hindsight, they were way too old to be front row at a New Found Glory set. But then again, most of the people attending are likely serving fries right now, and I saw attempted mosh pits at Angels and Airwaves and Dashboard Confessional shows before... So my expectations of people at these shows should be considerably lower.

So anyways, I decide to throw on some New Found Glory and as usual, I am googling stuff about the band while listening to a playlist. I see Texas is the Reason mentioned on a message board saying that NFG sounds a lot like them. So I check them out:



I heard this song first and thought it ruled. Basically they were also huge players in the '90s emo scene like The Get Up Kids were. I am looking forward to hearing more and next week sitting down and listening to an entire album to get a more full view of the band.

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Well that shit doesn't fly anymore old timer. Bullying today isn't the same as it was back in your day. Bullying has amplified to a whole new level with the internet and you can't even escape it when you go home. You still receive harrassing messages all over social networks that you are apart of and get threatening phone calls saying "I'm going to kill you and die in a fire" It is more than just a little wedgie. They go on a more aggressive attack nowadays that is more psychological than physical.

Also, here's a list of emoish bands that I have listened to that I can't get into. I haven't listened to much by any of them, so feel free to try and change my mind by giving me suggestions or posting a youtube video to listen to:

-Mineral
-old Jimmy Eat World
-American Football
-Hey Mercedes
-Cap'n Jazz
-Whirr/Whirl

Welcome to journal-land butthead!

Trollheart and Ki, thanks. Glad to be here in journal land.

One of the first emo bands I listened to was The Movielife. At the time, I was a pussy and dealing with a rough break-up in the early years of my college education. So I was sulking in my dorm room, using some Napster rip-off that my college endorsed and let us download from, when I stumbled upon The Movielife. I remember it was one of the 'recently downloaded' albums on the server or whatever, so I queued it to download without really knowing much about the band.

Turns out, the first song I heard from them was able to capture my pussy feelings pretty much perfectly. Here was the song:



My 19 year old self was like "Hey, hopefully in a few weeks I can feel this way" while downing 40 ounce hurricanes and stumbling through the dorm trying to avoid my RA. Basically the song is about being with someone and having wild, rough sex, then breaking up, and making up to be friends... My interpretation anyways. Of course it didn't work out that way. We got back together, had bought an apartment together, got a labrador, eventually had 2 kids in white suburban America, and listened to a lot of Top 40. She cooked and cleaned and I did yardwork and car repairs and we are living happily ever after to this day.

Just kidding, she started fucking a football player and I started pounding the pud of some freshman volleyball player. We eventually met up at Panera bread, then she came to my place 2 weeks later and we had wild sex, then we just let things deteriorate into a lot of bitter feelings and drunken phone calls I don't remember well. Haven't talked in a few years.

By the way, if you are about to tell me that The Movielife is actually pop-punk or whatever, please cram your laptop directly up your ass, jabroni. So moving on, I was listening to The Movielife for a few weeks until I found Alkaline Trio. Back in the day, I would wait until 3AM when the music videos came on MTV and VH1 and watch them all night out of a mixture of insomnia and lack of self discipline. I heard "Time To Waste" and thought it sounds pretty cool.

So I downloaded what I thought was Alkaline Trio's greatest hits CD, called Remains. Turns out, it's actually some weird collection of b-sides, EPs, and international releases. Not that it matters, it still rules. It had the uptempo rhythm I was looking for with a lot of really dark lyrics. Time to Waste, probably their biggest song to date, wasn't a very good predictor for what I would find within their other material. Their older stuff is especially punkish and noticeably less poppy.




I quickly became addicted to their sound and jammed to their first 3 CDs pretty much constantly. Everything after that is kind of hit or miss and much more poppy and less dark. Some of it kinda sucks but their old stuff, especially the Goddamnit and The Alkaline Trio CDs always have a place in my heart. I still relate a lot to the depressive alcohol-fueled lyrics.

Matt Skiba, their lead singer, also has some incredible solo stuff (if you check out his other bands, Heavens and Matt Skiba and The Sekrets, you will want to drown yourself). Maybe I will post some Skiba solo stuff another time but it's worth checking out. Alkaline Trio seems to be a nice bridge between pussy emo stuff and harder bands.

What's your point?

Don't worry about it. You don't have to be bullied the same way that kids/teens are today so you wouldn't understand.

As usual I agree fully with what you are saying. TO make it personal I will add this...I was bullied a ton as a kid. Did I like it, **** No. Did it make most of elementry, middle, and high school absolutely awful...yes. But if it wasnt for that I would never have learned to stand up for myself. I realize now that how people treat you is up to YOU not THEM, if you demand respect you will get it. If some parent or someone had stepped in every time I got bullied and treated me like the little pussie I was I would not have turned out as well as I think I have today.

edit: I would like to add however that as DJ said bullying on the internet has gotten way out of hand. Although it would seem most cases are because the original person was a complete moron. Take for example the girl who dressed up like the boston bombing victim. Sure people should not have started threatening her life and sending her nudes all over the internet and to her house....but if she wasnt an absolute retard in the first place that would have never happened. It isnt like totally innocent people are getting bullied to that extreme.

Totally innocent people are getting bullied to the extreme. There is a reason why they are committing suicide more and more.

I've heard about a few stories over the past few months of girls killing themselves over death threats from their peers that followed them from school to online.

The girls end up getting arrested that did the threaten and parents have that same mentality that buttface and batty has where they think their kids didn't do anything wrong and that kids these days need to toughen up. STFU and discipline your own children. I feel like they should be held accountable for the actions of their children. Take it to the extreme and jail the parents as well.

I'm still not entirely sure the point you're making. If you're saying that ending bullying is a good thing then I agree. My point is that the way this whole new fad is going about it is short-sighted, lazy, and mindless. It's people basically saying that bullying is bad and therefore it should be stopped and then they stop thinking because they've gotten their pseudo-activist thrill for the day. The entire mentality behind bullying is too pervasive in society and too complex to be fixed with a few Facebook updates or a few episodes of Glee. Until society actually makes this a legitimate priority and starts allocating actual time, effort, expertise from the medical and psychological communities, commits to sweeping changes throughout society rather than just the school systems, and blah, blah, blah, then we're all just pissing in the wind so our feet will feel warm.

If this whole anti-bullying fad is good for much of anything besides a few small gains here and there it's that it's a sign that society is slowly changing their mentality about the issue. That gives me hope, but I don't think we're going to get the quick fix that a lot of people seem to be hoping for. And in the meantime I'm not going to let my hypothetical children suffer for it.

My point is that bullying is different, way worse and more vicious than when you had to suffer through it. It is really different. It doesn't just go away with punching the one in the face that is going around bullying you to make you stop. It has dwarfed to a whole new level and that's why there is such an aggressive campaign nowadays to combat bullying period.

I dont disagree with most of what you are saying but I think the reason for all the anti bully campaigns nowadays is because of todays feminine led societal values. Bully my son? You're sued.

First of all, what Rez said, although I would say it has more to do with liberal values in general rather than specifically feminist values, secondly, I doubt you know any more about modern bullying than I do so how do you know that your claim that it is "way worse" isn't just being influenced by media hype? Maybe it is worse, but it's still a fad that will die down in time the same way the Kony 2012 thing did. It may take longer simply because it actually has something to do with "us" rather than someplace halfway across the world, but America's attention span is finite and we will eventually tire of this topic. And then we'll be left will half-baked laws and regulations that will probably affect bullying about as much as the war on drugs stops those same kids from smoking weed.

I was watching judge judy the other day. One mom sued another because their sons got in a fight during a neighbirhood football game. Thats where we are at.

There's a lot of truth in comedy. I cant recall verbatim but in a Bill Burr stand up special he jokes about how women often get away with absurdity because men want to get laid so they let stuff slide.

So you end up with women plus half the men who are pussy whipped agreeing on these pussy values vs the other men. So its 75 vs 25.

At work til tonight but later I will update with more examples of figurative castration and some nostalgic music stuff

I will start off here with a news story from a month or two ago that I believe I posted in the gun control thread. In short, a scumbag was trying to steal a truck. The truck owner was a Marine and confronted the thief. Guns were drawn and the Marine pumped some steel into scumbag's chest. Scumbag died. Of course the anti-gun pussies of this website and the world in general, would rather let some random loser steal your ride than defend your property.

Here's the story link. Score one for the good guys.

I just can't stand these bleeding heart pussies who don't want a person to be able to defend themselves or property. I was actually reading about a guy who stabbed a burglar 12 times and died, but he went to jail. That story led me to the story of Tony Martin, and English farmer who shot and killed a thief. He went to jail for a few years. WTF is wrong with this world? I swear we make it way too easy for the bad guys to win. Way too many apologists for losers and scumbags, always willing to give them the benefit of the doubt (for some reason). It's never their fault, it's always that 'the system failed them.' I wish to wipe that shart stain of a phrase from the face of the Earth. It's such a cop-out and nobody who says it has any idea what they are even saying.

tl:dr Be awesome; kill bad guys.

Also, video from masterclass real life troll Dick Masterson:




So back to music. Dashboard Confessional and The Used are as far down the pussyometer that I have ever been willing to go. Unfortunately, that's pretty close to the end of the meter. Somewhere between wearing pink and watching romantic comedies alone. I had always gone for the uptempo emo-pop-punk stuff, but in the early-mid 2000s Dashboard became pretty hard to ignore for me. I was obsessed with this chick who listened to Dashboard Confessional and Something Corporate. So I bought us tickets to a Dashboard show (can't remember who opened). Turns out she cancelled and I went with my best friend and his girl at the time. That wasn't weird or awkward. This is also a great opportunity for me to say something. Danielle, if you're reading this, I am extending the offer for you to choke down my kielbasa. I might be a decade too late, but you flaked on that concert and I feel like it's a good gesture of repayment. Do the right thing. Be a good person.

Anyway, I feel like Dashboard became kind of a symbol of emo of that era after their 2nd album and kind of the start of the early 2000s heavy marketing of the genre. They weren't a real great poster-boy for it in all honesty. A lot of their lyrics sound like Chris Carabba lifted them from 14 year olds on an "Introduction to Poetry" message board. They didn't really have that hardcore or punk influenced sound, and in all honesty they probably marked the starting point in time where a lot of the older emo bands and originators started disassociating themselves with the genre.



Haven't really followed or cared about them since I was a teenager aside from their hit singles over the years. Very rarely will go back and jam to some tunes I remember well from high school.

Your journal makes me wanna listen to some of these bands (Despite not being able to watch the videos due to being on my 3DS), particularly the Alkaline Trio and The Movielife. Too bad there's probably not a decent place to go find their music in this state, unless there's a mystical CD store I don't know about. :laughing: Anyways, yeah, excellant job! :)

I feel kinda lame listening to The Movielife. They give a more teenage feel to handling girl problems or whatever. But Alkaline Trio is really timeless to me. Matt Skiba shredded his vocal chords over the years with his aggressive singing style and their last 2-3 albums have been noticeably more poppy. They've lost their punk style roots over the years, but I will always think their first few albums are titties. The depressive, alcohol fueled lyrics don't feel like forced poetry shart like a lot of music (even bands I like). It feels less woe-is-me and more fuck this shit.



Speaking of Alkaline Trio, their lead singer is Matt Skiba. For those not in-the-know, Skiba has been in a bunch of side projects. Most notably, or not-notably because they blow fat cocks, Heavens and Matt Skiba and the Sekrets. Don't listen to either, it will taint your image of him. It's like watching Jordan ball for the Wizards or Jerry Rice's skeleton run routes for Seattle. It's painful.

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But, his solo stuff owns. In 2002, (thanks Wikipedia) Skiba released this Split CD thing with Kevin Seconds from 7 Seconds (eh, he's alright). Skiba has 5 songs on it, and every one is killer. The bassist/occasional singer from Alkaline Trio has a weird voice, kinda lispy. So his pussy-ass isn't in the solo stuff. Here are my two favorites from the Split.

In Your Wake


Song about kicking heroin:

Good Fucking Bye



There was a bunch of stuff the past few weeks I thought about posting here that I found contributed to the Pussification of America, but I'm tired. Also just a lot of ridiculous bullshit from feminists, vegans, etc. I was kinda hoping more people would be up-in-arms about the Jameis Winston rape situation so I could make fun of them, but feminists seem relatively intelligent on that issue. Got the next few days off, expect more updates this weekend. I know you are all eagerly waiting with your asses barely on the edge of your seats.

Today I had the unfortunate circumstance of taking my car for inspection, which it failed miserably. I could have laid $350 in my toilet and watch it swirl away with my turds, but at least I have a safer car now. The most unfortunate part was that I was stuck at the mechanic for a few hours since I didn't have a ride and didn't know when he would be finished. I walked to get food, but came back and flipped on their little 22 inch TV in the waiting area to kill some time.

Basic cable. Those peasants. I had the brain-racking decision between QVC, Paternity Court, or Dr. Phil. Paternity Court gave me some lols, but I felt like I was cheating on a certain Judge Judith Sheindlin, which led me to the beginning of a Dr. Phil episode. There were 2 parents on stage, with their hott, busty, blonde daughter between them. It piqued my interest despite the fact she was 16. I wanted to see what this little hoe had to say, though it was regrettably not on Jerry Springer. Basically, she was a pill popping slut who got expelled from school, liked fighting, and dated 28 year old guys. Man, some guys have all the luck.

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So, as usual, everyone is telling their sides of various stories while the crowd 'ooo's and ahhh's' every few minutes to show signs of life. Snap to a few quick-cuts to crowd members shaking their heads or laughing at a lame Dr. Phil dad-pun. It was everything I remembered from watching Dr. Phil with my gram 7 years ago. Basically, the mom cheated on the Dad, who she said abused her. The daughter told a bunch of likely exaggerated stories about trying to kill herself 40 times, her father abusing her, doing meth at age 11, etc. She actually managed to take a story about attacking her Dad with scissors and make herself the victim. I could tell she had a Tumblr blog.

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Little hoe



But I'm watching this all go down, and Dr. Phil is being such a blowhard. The Dad was like "I never touched anyo-" and Phil interrupts with "That's a lie!" Cue crowd applause. At one point he told the crowd that a mother is a young girl's most important role model, then very awkwardly stared at the mother until the crowd felt uncomfortable enough to laugh 10 seconds later. The entire segment was so ridiculous. But mainly I couldn't help but feel a level of rage towards Dr. Phil that I don't usually feel towards people. I had to get up and go smoke a cigarette at one point to contemplate my existence in a world where he routinely packs his studio with his minion-retard-fans who actually think this guy knows what he is talking about. The segment ended as they were handing me a bill for their services. She got put in some stupid group home which was "specifically designed to handle these type of situations." Whatever. I hate seeing his face. I hate his voice. Why are my jimmies rustled?


Well now I feel obligated to shoehorn some music into this shitty update. I was clicking around trying to find bands that seemed to fit the bill of my music tastes. I found this song:



I thought it sounded pretty sick. Checked out a handful of songs by Sense Field and realized they were all fucking ghey. They were all like Dashboard Confessional-ish. Way too soft and sappy for me.

So then Rezz was playing Chevelle in Plug and we had talked about Chevelle in Plug a few weeks back. See, I had this room mate. We will call him Doug since that's his name. Doug was the type of guy who couldn't have a good night if he didn't pick up a chick. He had a nice routine of stumbling into our place at 3AM without a random slut, blast Chevelle from the living room speakers and smash beer bottles in our kitchen. Ah, college.

Eventually he found a random slut named Pam. She was a very top-heavy Mexican chick who had a bush (lol). Overall pretty cool chick though and her and her friends started coming around a lot. But then she started coming around drunk like every night to **** Doug, who was a lanky, pasty, and had one of those beer bellies that looked like a starving Ethiopian on his wiry frame. So the soundtrack to their fucking became Chevelle blasting through his speakers. Whether through that experience or through other means, I started to really like Chevelle. I never really dug too deep into their catalogue but always liked the songs I've heard.



First song I heard by Chevelle because it was in Madden.

If you want to dig into their albums then listen to "Wonder What's Next" then "This Type of Thinking (Could Do Us In)" the clincher is on that album and then Sci-fi Crimes!! Love Sci-fi crimes.

Apparently they released an album in 2011 but I haven't heard it yet so I can't co-sign for it but definitely check out those three and get back to me with what you think.

Honestly I skipped the music part of your post cause I didn't really care TBH, but I hate Dr. Phil too. Dude's a pimple on the ass of society with the same gimmick as news reporters who do stories on missing white girls: give people a train wreck to watch and make them think they're actually being the opposite of exploitative. The only one I hate worse is Dr. Oz since he's an actual medical doctor who uses his degree to push weight loss tips on the kind of double-digit IQ women who watch soap operas. And yes I watch soap operas but I'm a dude so I'm immune to that stereotype.

After listening to Chevelle for years I have come to like SFC the most. And the album you mean is my guess Hats Off to the Bull, also amazing. They did release a greatest hits with a few unreleased tracks but they are god damned due for a new album. The wiki says they are recording it currently.

I've seen clips of some show called "The Doctors" I think, where it's an Oprah-style circlejerk with two doctors who give tips or whatever. I hate people like Tyra, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, Oprah, etc, but I think I hate their audience members more. They strike me s the type of people who sniff sniff their own socks and are constantly beating off on some moral high ground.

And I'm sure the check is nice and hefty, but it baffles me that these families willingly go on these shows. "Hunny, we are having a lot of problems in our marriage and with our children. We are on a crash course for rock bottom, what do you think we should do?" "Sweetheart, I think we should go on national television and expose all of our embarrassing and humiliating secrets of our life and have some psuedo-intellectual tell us in front of millions of people how terrible we are as people." "Good idea, babe. What's Dr. Phil's number?"

I think I actually have more respect for the goons who would go on Springer because they took it less seriously. They knew they were white-trash or ghetto fuck-ups and they were too far down the rabbit hole to ever crawl out. Speaking of Springer, anyone ever catch the Wilkos show? The one with Springer's old security guy, Steve. Man, what a shitty show that is. He somehow managed to take 80% of Dr. Phil's holier-than-thou aura and mix it with 5% of Springer's charisma, wittiness, and hilariousness to form a steamy turd of a show. The other 15% is intimidating scrawny caterpillar-moustached 35 year olds into almost pissing themselves on stage until the crowd is cued to chant "Steve! Steve! Steve!"

Unrelated to crap talk shows, what's the best downloading service now? I have just been using Pandora for music needs for a long time, but there's a few albums I want to download including the Chevelle ones Rezz posted about. Are torrents still a thing?

I actually used to love Wilkos' first season when he threw chairs and threatened people. He was basically just a holier-than-thou thug. Now he's backed off and is just holier-than-thou for the most part. But for a little while it was a quality spectacle.

Whoa whoa whoa. Slow down with the dissing of "The Doctors". The doctors is a great show with medical professions giving medical advice that is more light hearted and they always preface with it consult your own physician and take what they are saying with a grain a salt.

I don't know what people are using for downloading but streaming is all the right nowadays. Spotify and there are a few others out that you can do that with iTunes player if you have an idevice.

Not gonna lie I didnt know what to think at first but this journal is shaping up.

If I wasn't already voting for The Batcave this would be a serious contender for Journal of the Year, though it's a bit young for that. Maybe drive Exo even madder and suggest "Best new journal of the year" as a category?

To quote a band I'm sure you all hate, Supertramp, butthead, my man, "You're coming along!" :clap:

You really do play Devil's Advocate just for the sake of it don't you? Those shows are garbage. They're doctors, doctors, who use the trust granted them as physicians to prey on women's insecurities to give them weight loss tips, cause that's what these shows are really about, under the guise of "health concerns". They're the medical version of sell-outs and should be stoned in the street.

I'm not playing Devil's Advocate. I legitimately like the show. I used to watch it every day at 9am when it was on CBS or make sure that it was getting recorded. They very rarely touch on weight loss tips. They cover a wide variety of topics since they have one doctor that specializes in different fields. One is a plastic surgeon that gives skin care tips/advice. One is a pediatrician for tips related to health concerns related to kids. One is a gynecologist and she deal with female health issues and then there is one that covers general health type of topics. It is a very educational show. Maybe you should watch it one day instead of just throwing a blanket over it and generalizing it like it's the same as all of the other shows because it's NOT.

I have seen it. I watch daytime TV all the time. General Hospital and all that. The Doctors isn't as garbage as Dr. Oz, but that show is still balls.

Maybe I didn't see the earlier Steve wilkos shows. I don't watch a variety of shows but I have stopped a handful of times in hopes of some skeazy redneck incestual tranny action. Instead it was episodes on bad fathers or something.... Zzzzzz. I want midget tranny hookers with saggy torpedo tits and fat jailbait trailer trash from my daytime talk shows and I want it now.

As for the doctors show I admittedly have barely watched it and it's mostly in the form of internet videos but the younger guy seemed especially toolish.

Not to mention the chick is somehow attractive and fugly at the same time.

Will confirm you got me to listen to both of those Brand New album a few months ago and they are now reguarly played. The Devil and God is probably one of my favorite albums I have ever heard, I really love it and think it is undoubtedly Brand News best.

Anyone know for how long Butthead will be banned?

I thought that account disabled mean forever? At least when I speak about bans it means " banned foreverly?" Ain't shorter bans are just penalties? Then again, I'm not so familiar with that site so I don't really know