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Tristan_Geoff 01-25-2017 09:12 PM

Question: is any of Basinski's Disintegration Loops available on vinyl that isn't a 1000 dollar boxset?

innerspaceboy 01-25-2017 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1799732)
Question: is any of Basinski's Disintegration Loops available on vinyl that isn't a 1000 dollar boxset?

You can buy a nearly-unplayed copy of the complete 9LP+5CD+DVD+Book box set on ebay now for $390. The package has a few creases from shipment.

There's also a mint sealed copy for $450.

While some of the later loops were pressed individually, trust me - this is the set to own. The book is breathtaking, and the set also contains the two live performances of dlp 1.1 - Wordless Music Orchestra conducted by Ryan McAdams Live At The Metropolitan Museum Of Art, September 11, 2011, and Alter Ego Ensemble Live At The 54th Venice Music Biennale, October 18, 2008. These recordings are exclusive to this release.

I probably paid $350 with shipping when I preordered upon announcement of the original release. The mint sealed for $450 is really a fair price for 9LPs, 5CDs, a DVD of the film, and the oversize photo book.

Do it. Do it now.

Oriphiel 01-26-2017 03:46 AM

Hey Innerspaceboy, have you ever played Killer7? If so, I'd love to hear your interpretation of what it's about.

Tristan_Geoff 01-26-2017 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1799775)
You can buy a nearly-unplayed copy of the complete 9LP+5CD+DVD+Book box set on ebay now for $390. The package has a few creases from shipment.

There's also a mint sealed copy for $450.

While some of the later loops were pressed individually, trust me - this is the set to own. The book is breathtaking, and the set also contains the two live performances of dlp 1.1 - Wordless Music Orchestra conducted by Ryan McAdams Live At The Metropolitan Museum Of Art, September 11, 2011, and Alter Ego Ensemble Live At The 54th Venice Music Biennale, October 18, 2008. These recordings are exclusive to this release.

I probably paid $350 with shipping when I preordered upon announcement of the original release. The mint sealed for $450 is really a fair price for 9LPs, 5CDs, a DVD of the film, and the oversize photo book.

Do it. Do it now.

I'm tight on cash now but later in life this is something I'll definitely do.

innerspaceboy 01-26-2017 11:40 AM

:nono:
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Originally Posted by Suzy Creamcheese (Post 1799791)
Hey Innerspaceboy, have you ever played Killer7? If so, I'd love to hear your interpretation of what it's about.

Definitely an interesting game. My console gaming experience is limited to the 8-bit NES, a few Genesis titles, and PC shareware from the MS-DOS era. (AlphaWaves, Nebulous, Commander Keen, and The Neverhood are fond favorites.

From what I've read on Wiki, the storyline is fairly well understood. Are there elements of the plot left open to interpretation?

Frownland 01-26-2017 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tristan Geoff (Post 1799801)
I'm tight on cash now but later in life this is something I'll definitely do.

A wiser investment might be getting your own magnetic tape setup for performing your own disintegration loops.

Oriphiel 01-26-2017 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1799873)
From what I've read on Wiki, the storyline is fairly well understood. Are there elements of the plot left open to interpretation?

Yes, the whole plot is completely open to interpretation. Suda51 intentionally made it so that each individual player has to decide for themselves what is real and what is symbolic in every scene. Is it the story of two immortals fighting endlessly throughout time? Is it about an assassin that is brainwashed by the government, and Harman and Kun Lan (as well as everyone else) are just elements implanted in him to control him? Is it about an old man going crazy as he sits alone waiting to die, and the whole story is a mixture of his memories and what he sees on his TV? Or is it all just a metaphor for the futility of politics and war?

There are also a whole bunch of unanswered questions throughout the game, and everyone who plays the game has to fill in the blanks for themselves. For example:

Spoiler for possible spoilers:
Why does Kun Lan, the villain, have the "Hand of God"? Was he actually the good guy, fighting to prevent a totalitarian world void of freedom? Or was he simply a symbol of eastern culture clashing with the west? Why does Garcian react to security cameras the way that he does? What exactly is the Yakumo (a document detailing the UN party's policy? A list of Japanese spies that have infiltrated the US? A symbol of authority that a certain voting block is sworn to back?)? Who is LOVE, and what did she mean when she was talking to Garcian? Is Emir a human and his rebirth/longevity simply a metaphor, or is he more than human? What specifically is Kun Lan's involvement with Emir? Who is Iwazaru and his wife, and should what happens in the trailer's basement be taken literally? Who is screaming behind the metal door in Garcian's trailer? Who is the Gatekeeper of the Vinculum Gate?


If you ever get the chance to play the game, I'd love to hear your thoughts. If you go hunting for a copy (or a ROM), I would recommend the version developed for the Gamecube. It's the original, and features several graphical differences from the PS2 version, as well as shorter loading times.

innerspaceboy 01-26-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Suzy Creamcheese (Post 1799946)
Yes, the whole plot is completely open to interpretation.

Sounds fascinating! Thanks for the scoop!

Oriphiel 01-26-2017 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1799957)
Sounds fascinating! Thanks for the scoop!

You're welcome. :thumb:

So, you've played a few Genesis games? Are there any you still play now and then?

The Batlord 01-26-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by innerspaceboy (Post 1799957)
Sounds fascinating! Thanks for the scoop!

If you don't want to risk spending money on a system and games that you'll end up not even liking then there's always Youtube Let's Plays, where you can watch personalities play video games in much the same format as a podcast. There's a delightful and very insightful one by the name of Pewdiepie who I think you would find very interesting.




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