The Rock Album Survivor Reviews Thread

JGuy Grungeman · 06-16-2016, 01:21 PM

Yeah, small degree. But I've also made it clear there are limits, hence my Justin Bieber/powerviolence scenario. And I agree that alternative is extremely broad. Still, they all carry something similar, don't they? At least, modern alternative does since alternative used to be more about being outside of mainstream.

**Frownland** · 06-16-2016, 01:21 PM

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Uh-huh. And why?

Because when you make language's meaning subjective, you sing the orbit of left all dance anyone can come mumble with their own meandwarf.

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Still, they all carry something similar, don't they?

With alternative, I say no. All it had to do is not be glam rock.

JGuy Grungeman · 06-16-2016, 01:23 PM

So, you don't see the light combination of folk rock and post-punk influence, as well as the commonj social disconcern theme? I think Radiohead's OK Computer and pracrtically anything by REM are prime examples of this. BNut this also proves both of our points that there are things to disagree on inh terms of genre relevancy and sounds.

JGuy Grungeman · 06-16-2016, 02:27 PM

Duty Now for the Future by Devo

Devo's first album wasd all about having as much fun one could possibly have. That is exactly what made Devo so good and so influential. The thing is, that wasn't the second album. It just wasn't as fun. Still, it's very well worth listening to, and still inlfuential.

Upon the first note, I wondered where their love for fun had gone. As soon as “Clockout” had begun, I realized it wasn't gone. It was just overshadowed by the albums' complexity. It seems that their will to experiment actually got in the way of their fun-loving personality that made the first album so great. Still, Clockout succeeds as an opening song (not counting the one minute intro track). It sets the standards for the rest of the album and it's actually great. The rest of the album has a slight synthpunk feel, obviously noting that Devo is also influential in the realm of synthpunk. The really are one of the most influential bands ever.

Soon after the first couple tracks, Devo retains their wonderful take on fun and frolic, even though it is not as strong as their debut. Still, the album is very well worth it due to their new, synthy take on their own style. Occasionally, the album feels a bit like a bunch of robots making a punk album for a Sega Genesis game. Nostalgia powers, activate.

I think this album is very well worth it for punk and new wave fans. And I doubt many new Devo fans will be disappointed. It's a great album, liker the debut.

87/100. Gonna be somewhere in the middle of my vote if it stays on new wave and does no get moved to synthpunk. If it does get moved to synthpunk, it'll remain a bit on the high side of my list.

**Frownland** · 06-16-2016, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

So, you don't see the light combination of folk rock and post-punk influence, as well as the commonj social disconcern theme? I think Radiohead's OK Computer and pracrtically anything by REM are prime examples of this. BNut this also proves both of our points that there are things to disagree on inh terms of genre relevancy and sounds.

There are alternative bands that have those qualities, that yes. That doesn't mean it applies to every alternative album. Audioslave comes to mind as an alternative band with none of those three qualities you mention. Alternative is without a doubt the most ambiguous genre name because its only cohesive element is that it is not glam rock.

JGuy Grungeman · 06-16-2016, 02:52 PM

There is a word that describes them. I just can't figure out what it is. It's something that practically connects them all, something in the production and tone...

**Frownland** · 06-16-2016, 02:53 PM

The word you're looking for is "alt rock". Or maybe it's "boring"? Because Audioslave is naptime music.

JGuy Grungeman · 06-16-2016, 02:55 PM

A: Do not insult Chris Cornell.
B: That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about something within alternative's so- you said boring. So is it that you do not understand alternative because you do not like it? Or were you specificvally talking about Audioslave?

**Frownland** · 06-16-2016, 02:58 PM

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A: Do not insult Chris Cornell.

I like Soundgarden and a couple Temple of the Dog songs, but not Audioslave.

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B: That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about something within alternative's so- you said boring. So is it that you do not understand alternative because you do not like it? Or were you specificvally talking about Audioslave?

I was talking specifically about Audioslave. When you come upon that word for alternative that will be quickly invalidated with an example you didn't think of, let me know. For now, Alternative is as meaningless a descriptor as "natural".

JGuy Grungeman · 06-16-2016, 03:01 PM

Post radio-friendly?
Controlled emotion?

06-16-2016, 01:21 PM	#101 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Yeah, small degree. But I've also made it clear there are limits, hence my Justin Bieber/powerviolence scenario. And I agree that alternative is extremely broad. Still, they all carry something similar, don't they? At least, modern alternative does since alternative used to be more about being outside of mainstream. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

06-16-2016, 01:23 PM	#103 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	So, you don't see the light combination of folk rock and post-punk influence, as well as the commonj social disconcern theme? I think Radiohead's OK Computer and pracrtically anything by REM are prime examples of this. BNut this also proves both of our points that there are things to disagree on inh terms of genre relevancy and sounds. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me. Last edited by JGuy Grungeman; 06-16-2016 at 01:35 PM.

06-16-2016, 02:27 PM	#104 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Duty Now for the Future by Devo Devo's first album wasd all about having as much fun one could possibly have. That is exactly what made Devo so good and so influential. The thing is, that wasn't the second album. It just wasn't as fun. Still, it's very well worth listening to, and still inlfuential. Upon the first note, I wondered where their love for fun had gone. As soon as “Clockout” had begun, I realized it wasn't gone. It was just overshadowed by the albums' complexity. It seems that their will to experiment actually got in the way of their fun-loving personality that made the first album so great. Still, Clockout succeeds as an opening song (not counting the one minute intro track). It sets the standards for the rest of the album and it's actually great. The rest of the album has a slight synthpunk feel, obviously noting that Devo is also influential in the realm of synthpunk. The really are one of the most influential bands ever. Soon after the first couple tracks, Devo retains their wonderful take on fun and frolic, even though it is not as strong as their debut. Still, the album is very well worth it due to their new, synthy take on their own style. Occasionally, the album feels a bit like a bunch of robots making a punk album for a Sega Genesis game. Nostalgia powers, activate. I think this album is very well worth it for punk and new wave fans. And I doubt many new Devo fans will be disappointed. It's a great album, liker the debut. 87/100. Gonna be somewhere in the middle of my vote if it stays on new wave and does no get moved to synthpunk. If it does get moved to synthpunk, it'll remain a bit on the high side of my list. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me. Last edited by JGuy Grungeman; 06-16-2016 at 02:35 PM.

06-16-2016, 02:52 PM	#106 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	There is a word that describes them. I just can't figure out what it is. It's something that practically connects them all, something in the production and tone... __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

06-16-2016, 02:53 PM	#107 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	The word you're looking for is "alt rock". Or maybe it's "boring"? Because Audioslave is naptime music. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-16-2016, 02:55 PM	#108 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	A: Do not insult Chris Cornell. B: That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about something within alternative's so- you said boring. So is it that you do not understand alternative because you do not like it? Or were you specificvally talking about Audioslave? __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

06-16-2016, 03:01 PM	#110 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Post radio-friendly? Controlled emotion? __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.