Hitler's circle of evil music

The Batlord · 03-09-2018, 04:49 PM

Honestly I'm drunkenly rambling at this point, but my own fascination with this **** interests me. The ultimate question with racist music to me is this: will this song make you hate anybody? If so then the music isn't your problem. If not then the only question is if the aesthetics of the music appeals to you. I can understand if you don't like the negativity of the music, but it's that negativity that fascinates me on both an intellectual and a primal level. There's just so much hate and energy going on that I'm drawn to it on a level that calls to me on an emotional level, while the specifics of the ideology are interesting, no matter how ignorant they may be.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Hence why I don't listen to any of your Nazi wank: it always sucks on a musical level. Idgaf about the lyrics and imagery tbh.

Reasonable. So much of this **** is trash. I'm just sad that you can't appreciate hate.

The Batlord · 03-09-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by p310

Very smart things. I agree with most of that, but then, when it comes to the views on nazism, I have a different perception. It's probably from where I live. There's a tombstone on the corner of my neighborhood in memory of a few thousand civilians murdered at that very spot. There's a rail station nearby that was used to transport a few hundred thousand people to death camps. When people ask me 'how old is this building?' I can easly answer 'probably like 50 years old at most cause everything, really everything was ruined'.

I'm a very liberal person but nazism is probably the one of two things that repulse me to my bones and stays outside of my zone of tolerance.

Music and art are subject to massive amounts of subjectivity, so while I don't get your point of view, being an American who's never had to deal with any of that, I can understand a more visceral reaction that would make neo-Nazi music simply untenable.

**Frownland** · 03-09-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

subject to massive amounts of subjectivity.

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The Batlord · 03-09-2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

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But you're a boring **** tbh.

**Frownland** · 03-09-2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

But you're a boring **** tbh.

I can tell that you didn't think many thoughts before posting that post.

The Batlord · 03-09-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I can tell that you didn't think many thoughts before posting that post.

I'm drink that drink.

p310 · 03-09-2018, 05:12 PM

Nazism is not art, even if you paint it and hang it on a wall. It is a historical, objective fact.

Still I appreciate that you explained so thoroughly what you like about this music. I must agree that in my case it's untenable. But you go ahead. You like some strange musical quality of those bands, that doesn't mean anything.

p310 · 03-09-2018, 05:14 PM

also, those documentaries don't bite.

~~MicShazam~~ · 03-09-2018, 05:17 PM

If you remove yourself from the ideology, then it's human beings expressing something, even if that something is repulsive. There's value in trying to understand other ways of seeing the world, without having to accept these views. I do think this Nazi punk seems to be mostly low-rent crap, musically speaking, but it's still interesting to me to try and understand what's going through the heads of these people.

**Frownland** · 03-09-2018, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by p310

Nazism is not art, even if you paint it and hang it on a wall. It is a historical, objective fact.

Nazism itself? No, not art. Music that incorporates Nazi themes? 100% art.

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03-09-2018, 05:12 PM	#37 (permalink)
p310 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: not in space, sadly Posts: 101	Nazism is not art, even if you paint it and hang it on a wall. It is a historical, objective fact. Still I appreciate that you explained so thoroughly what you like about this music. I must agree that in my case it's untenable. But you go ahead. You like some strange musical quality of those bands, that doesn't mean anything.

03-09-2018, 05:14 PM	#38 (permalink)
p310 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: not in space, sadly Posts: 101	also, those documentaries don't bite.

03-09-2018, 05:17 PM	#39 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	If you remove yourself from the ideology, then it's human beings expressing something, even if that something is repulsive. There's value in trying to understand other ways of seeing the world, without having to accept these views. I do think this Nazi punk seems to be mostly low-rent crap, musically speaking, but it's still interesting to me to try and understand what's going through the heads of these people.