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p310 03-09-2018 12:39 PM

Hitler's circle of evil music
 
Hello,

I'm watching the new Netflix's Hitler's Circle of Evil documentary series. There is some great music in it but I can't find any info about who made it or what are the names of the songs. Maybe someone found it or can share some info? I like especially the intro and the outro. The opening is actually on youtube:


please help

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 03-09-2018 12:41 PM

thread title had me hoping for something better here

Oriphiel 03-09-2018 12:47 PM

Lynyrd Skynyrd - Freivogel

The Batlord 03-09-2018 12:54 PM

I think this is what you're looking for.


MicShazam 03-09-2018 01:22 PM

I knew Batty would deliver!

The Batlord 03-09-2018 01:31 PM

If there's one thing on this earth I love it's racists.

MicShazam 03-09-2018 01:59 PM

Man, that was almost a sig moment.

p310 03-09-2018 02:22 PM

no
 
some blitz-answers today.

I was hoping that someone will identify the music but

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Originally Posted by Ol’ Qwerty Bastard (Post 1931867)
thread title had me hoping for something better here

at least it got attention.

MicShazam 03-09-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by p310 (Post 1931905)
some blitz-answers today.

I was hoping that someone will identify the music but



at least it got attention.

Don't take it personally. This site is bombared with requests for identifying this track or the other almost every day. For regular members, it's a bit much, really. You got some replies, which is really more than most get. Even if it didn't help you at all. Thanks for the link, at least. Maybe someone will find that interesting.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by p310 (Post 1931905)
some blitz-answers today.

I was hoping that someone will identify the music but



at least it got attention.

I was just happy for a chance to share some racist punk.

p310 03-09-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1931908)
This site is bombared with requests for identifying this track or the other almost every day.

Yeah people asking with: "it goes like ta da da DAAA" or "it's in the up-most video on 4th page on a youtube channel". At least there's place for nazi jokes with mine.
Oh and I like the freebird.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 02:46 PM

I'm just sad that all the versions of "We Fly the Swastika" have been flagged so that they can't be shared on other sites. Was my first choice.

p310 03-09-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1931921)
"We Fly the Swastika"

I don't even dare searching it. I'm sure its a dulcet piece of music.

MicShazam 03-09-2018 02:57 PM

It's like second only to Mozart.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by p310 (Post 1931929)
I don't even dare searching it. I'm sure its a dulcet piece of music.

It's seriously one of my fav songs of the last two years for reasons other than just it's hilarity, and it's not even that musically offensive. It's pretty chill compared to what you're probably expecting tbh. It's more poppy than punky actually.

You're gonna have to click the play button and then the Youtube link at the bottom right of the video though to be able to watch it though since it's restricted outside of Youtube. You know you want to.

p310 03-09-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord
musically offensive

Turns out it's blocked in my country. I found some live video.

If I pretend not to understand the words, it becomes likeable. There's something nice oldschool rock ish about it.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 03:44 PM

There's a reason I love that song so much even beyond the lyrics. But Jesus Christ is it fun to sing that yob chorus when no one can hear you:

"We fly the Swastika!
We fly it strong and true!
We ain't never gonna take it down for the communists or Jews!"

Never let good taste get in the way of enjoying music. Bad taste can be the best aphrodisiac.

MicShazam 03-09-2018 03:47 PM

Erh... I'm not sure I could make myself sing along to that, but I've been spinning Katy Perry's new album all evening for the second Friday in a row, so it's not like I don't get the idea of giving into the pleasures of questionable art.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1931959)
Erh... I'm not sure I could make myself sing along to that, but I've been spinning Katy Perry's new album all evening for the second Friday in a row, so it's not like I don't get the idea of giving into the pleasures of questionable art.

Bruh. Listen to that song, and then break into the third chorus at the end when you'll have heard it enough times to remember it. It's the most deliciously evil fun.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 03:50 PM

Also the best racist punk song.


MicShazam 03-09-2018 03:58 PM

I'm not a big fan of punk to begin with and I feel a sort of visceral, emotional oppositon to Nazism (don't forget that Denmark was occupied by Germany during WWII), but I know that the music could be taken from a more netural stance, if one could only get over the lyrical content. Melodies and rhythms don't carry any political messages after all.

p310 03-09-2018 03:59 PM

yeah it's kind of evil fun when a music video makes you want to puke

The Batlord 03-09-2018 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1931966)
I'm not a big fan of punk to begin with and I feel a sort of visceral, emotional oppositon to Nazism (don't forget that Denmark was occupied by Germany during WWII), but I know that the music could be taken from a more netural stance, if one could only get over the lyrical content. Melodies and rhythms don't carry any political messages after all.

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Originally Posted by p310 (Post 1931967)
yeah it's kind of evil fun when a music video makes you want to puke

I don't listen to a whole lot of bands in this style, because Jesus Christ are they just terrible to a level that makes juggalos look good, but there's just something about the anti-social nature of the music, the absence of almost everything that our society considers good and upright, that makes this music alien and compelling. There's a culture shock element that makes you sit upright and take notice of what you're listening to.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 04:10 PM

Also this is absolutely one of the greatest pop punk/melodic hardcore songs ever made. And it doesn't even have any overtly offensive lyrics. You could just pretend that it was the hardest song that Blink-182 ever made.


MicShazam 03-09-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1931973)
I don't listen to a whole lot of bands in this style, because Jesus Christ are they just terrible to a level that makes juggalos look good, but there's just something about the anti-social nature of the music, the absence of almost everything that our society considers good and upright, that makes this music alien and compelling. There's a culture shock element that makes you sit upright and take notice of what you're listening to.

Maybe that perspective is a bit like why I used to watch terrible conspiracy documentaries. I'd watch 3 hours docs on the new world order and such. Fascinating to see how deep that rabbit hole goes.

p310 03-09-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1931973)
I don't listen to a whole lot of bands in this style, because Jesus Christ are they just terrible to a level that makes juggalos look good, but there's just something about the anti-social nature of the music, the absence of almost everything that our society considers good and upright, that makes this music alien and compelling. There's a culture shock element that makes you sit upright and take notice of what you're listening to.

I just hope this is a cultural shock and it's alien. Let it forever be a cultural shock. Whatever curiosity you find there, I don't see it because my blood boils sooner.

J-pop is also alien and a cultural shock, not compelling at all.

MicShazam 03-09-2018 04:26 PM

J-pop is really just pop, though. Apart from the language.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by p310 (Post 1931981)
I just hope this is a cultural shock and it's alien. Let it forever be a cultural shock. Whatever curiosity you find there, I don't see it because my blood boils sooner.

J-pop is also alien and a cultural shock, not compelling at all.

After a million documentaries and history classes on the Holocaust you kind of get numb to it. They're just stories or times past tbh. I've honestly felt more connection to the emotional side of that **** by listening to this music than I have in a long time, and while that hasn't been "shock, horror, revulsion" of concentration camps you do get more of an idea of the human side of the other side, you know? When the type of person who would believe in that **** stops being a boogeyman and starts becoming some ignorant goon from a racist punk song, or some guy you watched on an alt-right Youtube video, then you get a more engaging picture of just what the other side is about, which means more than just fifty year old pictures you can pretend are a relic of the past.

TBH the kind of person who would legitimately feel this **** is far more cringey than you'd think from being terrified of Hitler speeches. I think it's kind of important to remember that. Hitler was speeking to a very primitive part of human psychology, and no matter how "upliftingly" crazy the Nazis might have been, it's nice to remember that they were really just speaking to garden variety ignorance.

But there's definitely a theatricality to the whole thing that makes it entertaining to watch/listen to, whether it be old Nazi rallies or bargain basement neo-Nazi punk recordings.

Frownland 03-09-2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1931973)
I don't listen to a whole lot of bands in this style, because Jesus Christ are they just terrible to a level that makes juggalos look good, but I have terrible taste so it's cool.

Hence why I don't listen to any of your Nazi wank: it always sucks on a musical level. Idgaf about the lyrics and imagery tbh. I wouldn't be able to listen to power electronics if I did.

p310 03-09-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1931990)
After a million documentaries and history classes on the Holocaust you kind of get numb to it. They're just stories or times past tbh. I've honestly felt more connection to the emotional side of that **** by listening to this music than I have in a long time, and while that hasn't been "shock, horror, revulsion" of concentration camps you do get more of an idea of the human side of the other side, you know? When the type of person who would believe in that **** stops being a boogeyman and starts becoming some ignorant goon from a racist punk song, or some guy you watched on an alt-right Youtube video, then you get a more engaging picture of just what the other side is about, which means more than just fifty year old pictures you can pretend are a relic of the past.

TBH the kind of person who would legitimately feel this **** is far more cringey than you'd think from being terrified of Hitler speeches. I think it's kind of important to remember that. Hitler was speeking to a very primitive part of human psychology, and no matter how "upliftingly" crazy the Nazis might have been, it's nice to remember that they were really just speaking to garden variety ignorance.

But there's definitely a theatricality to the whole thing that makes it entertaining to watch/listen to, whether it be old Nazi rallies or bargain basement neo-Nazi punk recordings.

Very smart things. I agree with most of that, but then, when it comes to the views on nazism, I have a different perception. It's probably from where I live. There's a tombstone on the corner of my neighborhood in memory of a few thousand civilians murdered at that very spot. There's a rail station nearby that was used to transport a few hundred thousand people to death camps. When people ask me 'how old is this building?' I can easly answer 'probably like 50 years old at most cause everything, really everything was ruined'.

I'm a very liberal person but nazism is probably the one of two things that repulse me to my bones and stays outside of my zone of tolerance.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 04:49 PM

Honestly I'm drunkenly rambling at this point, but my own fascination with this **** interests me. The ultimate question with racist music to me is this: will this song make you hate anybody? If so then the music isn't your problem. If not then the only question is if the aesthetics of the music appeals to you. I can understand if you don't like the negativity of the music, but it's that negativity that fascinates me on both an intellectual and a primal level. There's just so much hate and energy going on that I'm drawn to it on a level that calls to me on an emotional level, while the specifics of the ideology are interesting, no matter how ignorant they may be.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1931993)
Hence why I don't listen to any of your Nazi wank: it always sucks on a musical level. Idgaf about the lyrics and imagery tbh.

Reasonable. So much of this **** is trash. I'm just sad that you can't appreciate hate.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by p310 (Post 1931995)
Very smart things. I agree with most of that, but then, when it comes to the views on nazism, I have a different perception. It's probably from where I live. There's a tombstone on the corner of my neighborhood in memory of a few thousand civilians murdered at that very spot. There's a rail station nearby that was used to transport a few hundred thousand people to death camps. When people ask me 'how old is this building?' I can easly answer 'probably like 50 years old at most cause everything, really everything was ruined'.

I'm a very liberal person but nazism is probably the one of two things that repulse me to my bones and stays outside of my zone of tolerance.

Music and art are subject to massive amounts of subjectivity, so while I don't get your point of view, being an American who's never had to deal with any of that, I can understand a more visceral reaction that would make neo-Nazi music simply untenable.

Frownland 03-09-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1931997)
subject to massive amounts of subjectivity.

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The Batlord 03-09-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1931999)
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But you're a boring **** tbh.

Frownland 03-09-2018 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1932001)
But you're a boring **** tbh.

I can tell that you didn't think many thoughts before posting that post.

The Batlord 03-09-2018 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1932004)
I can tell that you didn't think many thoughts before posting that post.

I'm drink that drink.

p310 03-09-2018 05:12 PM

Nazism is not art, even if you paint it and hang it on a wall. It is a historical, objective fact.

Still I appreciate that you explained so thoroughly what you like about this music. I must agree that in my case it's untenable. But you go ahead. You like some strange musical quality of those bands, that doesn't mean anything.

p310 03-09-2018 05:14 PM

also, those documentaries don't bite.

MicShazam 03-09-2018 05:17 PM

If you remove yourself from the ideology, then it's human beings expressing something, even if that something is repulsive. There's value in trying to understand other ways of seeing the world, without having to accept these views. I do think this Nazi punk seems to be mostly low-rent crap, musically speaking, but it's still interesting to me to try and understand what's going through the heads of these people.

Frownland 03-09-2018 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by p310 (Post 1932009)
Nazism is not art, even if you paint it and hang it on a wall. It is a historical, objective fact.

Nazism itself? No, not art. Music that incorporates Nazi themes? 100% art.


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