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debaserr 07-11-2012 12:16 PM

Frank Ocean - channel ORANGE
 
http://i.imgur.com/wNKFP.jpg

Frank Ocean - channel ORANGE

July 10 2012

Start
Thinkin Bout You
Fertilizer
Sierra Leone
Sweet Life
Not Just Money
Super Rich Kids (feat. Earl Sweatshirt)
Pilot Jones
Crack Rock
Pyramids
Lost
White (feat. John Mayer)
Monks
Bad Religion
Pink Matter (feat. André 3000)
Forrest Gump
End

TKEEN10 07-11-2012 11:16 PM

Frank Ocean
 
Glad to see someone else in here like Frank Ocean!

olaoluwakiwms 07-12-2012 11:23 AM

Did not liek the album much? Whats your take on the album?

14232949 07-12-2012 12:44 PM

Heard the track with Andre 3K, was unimpressed. Didn't look into the rest of the album.
I thought Nostalgia, ULTRA was fairly good but once I discovered The Weeknd, Franky Ocean was kicked to the curb.

debaserr 07-12-2012 01:31 PM

It's pretty good. My favorite songs are:



keith! 07-12-2012 02:08 PM

gave it a 5/5

yea

Mynameisfrank 07-12-2012 07:59 PM

Mr. Ocean's festivity.
 
Homosexual rapper potentially accepted by the hip hop community.

Could be good to get things going in hip hop.

FaSho 07-13-2012 11:10 AM

Nothing on the same level as The Weeknd, but still lived up to the hype. Crushes Nostalgia Ultra

Friend 07-15-2012 09:32 PM

Why are people saying this is Hip-Hop? There is a little bit of rapping, maybe 10%, but the vast majority is R&B.

As for the album. Out of the 17 tracks. About 4 are just those troll tracks that are just 40 seconds of car sounds and distant talking about nothing. A couple instrumentals, the only one note worthy is White (Ft. John Mayer). When you look at the real meat of the album, you just get alot of boring and unmemorable tracks that seem to go on forever. Example - Pyramids 10 MINUTES! THERE IS NOTHING TO THAT SONG WHY IS IT 10 MINUTES? Also the Earl Sweatshirt was preety bad imo, he sounds like he just woke up and only wanted to do one take. So that goes on for about 25min. But then you get to Bad Religion. This is the first time you get something actually memorable. I love the lyrics, and the production serves the mood of the song well. This is followed by Pink Matter (Ft. Andre 3000), a slightly above average song that is made amazing by the fantastic feature. Right after that you have Forrest Gump, my personal favorite off the album. I just love every single second of this damn song. Possibly the best song I've heard all year.

So in conclusion, the album is pretty uninteresting for the first 13 tracks, but then you have 3 tracks that blow all the others away it makes you wonder if they were made by a completely different person.

Final Score: 65% - It's hard to overlook the first half-hour mediocre songs.

This isn't where you write reviews is it? :)

debaserr 07-16-2012 07:12 PM

It's a great place to write reviews.

Gucci Little Piggy 07-17-2012 11:59 AM

I didn't have too high hopes for this but a first listen was a pleasant surprise. Not every song was a hit for me, but a couple of the songs were great. Especially Pyramids was a surprising track, I saw it was nearly 10 minutes logn and thought "how the hell is an R&B artist gonna make such a long song interesting and keep it that way?" but he did a good job on that. I dunno if it's a 3/5 or a 4/5 for me yet, gotta give it another go to know for sure.

z_imple 07-17-2012 07:27 PM

i will always love Nostalgia, ULTRA which i already treated as his first album but i really think channel orange is better
this album was obviously more personal so i think he put more into it in the long run

( the bonus track kinda ruined the mood though i don't think tyler fit on the album at all, have to admit also earl's part was disappointing too)

Janszoon 07-17-2012 09:26 PM

For the people who like this album a lot: What does it make you think of? What images does it evoke for you? What kind of feelings do you associate with this album?

I'm not a fan personally, but I'm very curious what others see in it.

locoman23 07-21-2012 03:51 AM

Honestly I am not impressed. The album is just too spread out and I have no idea what was he trying to do with it. The album has its moments but considering you fall asleep during the filler time, you barely notice them if you're not REALLY paying attention. That's another problem, the album just does not take me and hold me until the end. It's more background music than anything.

14232949 07-21-2012 10:15 AM

I enjoyed this release. Frank's really matured, and is sounding great.
I don't think it'll be long until he completely breaks off from Odd Future, he doesn't need them anymore.

His voice obviously is the albums main selling point, but there is some really great accompanying production, namely on the albums highlight: Pyramids.
The album displays it's best material from that moment on with the second half of the record being the much stronger, with songs like Forest Gump and Bad Religion really displaying the emotional maturity of Frank Ocean.

Not to say that the first half of the album was bad, it's not, it just felt as if it didn't really serve much purpose, there were some nice melodies but the album as a whole was possibly 3/4 tracks longer than it needed to be.

Overall, better than Nostalgia_ULTRA and a good effort, firmly cementing Frank as the number 2 cool r'n'b guy after The Weeknd.

Janszoon 07-21-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1209648)
For the people who like this album a lot: What does it make you think of? What images does it evoke for you? What kind of feelings do you associate with this album?

I'm not a fan personally, but I'm very curious what others see in it.

Can someone please answer these questions? I promise I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm really just curious.

joy_circumcision 07-26-2012 03:21 PM

Though I certainly don't miss the pointless interludes of Nostalgia Ultra, this felt like it just wasn't as well-done as the mixtape. Sure, the peaks here are much higher than the peaks there, but this album substitutes for the directionless, sporadic occasional failures of that release its own singular vision that sometimes approaches the dull and repetitive. A lot of the commentary that this album supposedly makes is lost on me, or maybe I'm just not that surprised when I hear about class confrontations in such an elementary way as "Super Rich Kids." Highlights surely include "Thinkin Bout You," "Sierra Leone," "Pyramids," and "Pink Matter," but there's nothing here that comes close to even making me understand the appeal, much less feel it.

3/5

Goofle 08-14-2012 07:14 AM

Can I ask if bots/n00bs are able to vote on here? Because lots of these threads get bumped and I notice that the vote always seems to be 5/5.

14232949 08-14-2012 07:34 AM

Upon further reflection after a few more listens, I think it's definitely worth a 5.
It's a grower, and it's so damn infectious.

nodresscode 08-14-2012 07:25 PM

I give it a 2/5, i was hoping more for some classic r&b and it just sounded like he was trying to be tooooo creative

Janszoon 08-14-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mankycaaant (Post 1218513)
Upon further reflection after a few more listens, I think it's definitely worth a 5.
It's a grower, and it's so damn infectious.

What sort of feeling does the album have for you? What images come to mind when you listen to it? Just curious.

carefulx 08-28-2012 10:15 PM

One the best albums I've heard this year, if not THE best. channel ORANGE is boss

AaronKent 08-29-2012 07:49 AM

It needs to grow on me, I haven't heard great hip-hop in ages.

Gucci Little Piggy 08-31-2012 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronKent (Post 1225181)
It needs to grow on me, I haven't heard great hip-hop in ages.

How about these ones:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39ib3TI7q1qe11m2.jpg

http://www.melodysupreme.org/wp-cont...MoneyStore.jpg

http://www.hip-hopkings.com/wp-conte...-Skelethon.jpg

And that's just 2012. I can barely imagine that you will reject all of these 3 albums.

Surell 09-17-2012 11:51 PM

5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5/5

It's "What's Goin On" with post-modern sensibilities. Or at least modern. I think it moves beautifully, and, though has a lot of ethereal sounds and images, is very tight and conservative. The pattern of seeming two-song combos which further link into the themes of songs ahead on the album not only keep me on my toes, but give me a sense of overwhelming forces, like soaring over all these events or hazily transporting to each isolated incident, like a very revealing dream. Janszoon I hhope i done helped this time.

Definitely the best new album I've heard in awhile, but don't take it from me because I don't keep up well.

Justthefacts 10-21-2012 02:17 PM

Listened to this album twice in a row, love it. Ocean's got a beautiful voice.

Arya Stark 10-22-2012 12:49 AM

I haven't listened to this album from start to finish yet, but I've listened to most of the songs scattered around.
I LOVE what I've heard so far.
And it's much better than one of the mixtapes of his that I had downloaded. I skipped most of the tracks, and I was really disappointed.
But this album is new and fresh and great. I really like it.

Aaron1 10-23-2012 08:15 AM

I can't get into this album! I really like the mixtape I had by him before this though. I will try again.

Goofle 12-22-2012 10:03 AM

It completely bored me and I had to skip a few ends of tracks because it was unbearable, but to be honest, I generally dislike R'n'B so what do I know?

Janszoon 12-22-2012 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1266830)
It completely bored me and I had to skip a few ends of tracks because it was unbearable, but to be honest, I generally dislike R'n'B so what do I know?

:beer:

Well, there was one song I thought was okay but it went on and on to the point of boredom.

TheBig3 12-23-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1266830)
It completely bored me and I had to skip a few ends of tracks because it was unbearable, but to be honest, I generally dislike R'n'B so what do I know?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1266832)
:beer:

Well, there was one song I thought was okay but it went on and on to the point of boredom.

I'm with you gentleman. No idea what the hype was for on this one.

SGR 12-23-2012 11:18 AM

I dunno, I loved this one. It felt so real and Ocean's voice is great.

TheBig3 12-23-2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 1267190)
I dunno, I loved this one. It felt so real and Ocean's voice is great.

Real and boring. I don't give a **** about honesty if you're sitting home on Friday night and eating microwave pizza. Have something worth rapping about.

Surell 12-28-2012 11:22 AM

But he never rapped, except for, like, once.

Nikolaj 12-31-2012 12:12 AM

i will give it 5/5... fantastic

14232949 01-07-2013 01:43 PM

Ironically it seems to be the same people hating on this album as Good Kid Maad City and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
I don't find that to be mere coincidence, I think there's an active 'This album is bad because it contains mainstream crossover capability and is popular' brigade going about.
Me, personally. I think all 3 albums are great and I am not alone in that regard.

Janszoon 01-07-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merrycaaant (Post 1272156)
Ironically it seems to be the same people hating on this album as Good Kid Maad City and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
I don't find that to be mere coincidence, I think there's an active 'This album is bad because it contains mainstream crossover capability and is popular' brigade going about.
Me, personally. I think all 3 albums are great and I am not alone in that regard.

You're really obsessed with the notion that people who like different things than you do have some sort of ulterior motive aren't you? It's very odd. Does it occur to you that maybe the reason there's overlap in who dislikes those albums is that there's things the albums have in common? I'm not familiar with Good Kid Maad City, but speaking as someone who dislikes both Channel Orange and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy I find both albums somewhat aesthetically similar. It's an aesthetic I don't like so therefore not surprising I wouldn't like one if I didn't like the other.

14232949 01-07-2013 04:06 PM

no, I am pretty positive there are ulterior motives. Perhaps as a way of looking down at such music to favour the more obscure.
If you knew you didn't like that particular brand of music; why listen?
Surely it wasn't just to criticize something you already had pre-conceived notions about.
I don't particularly like metal, but I don't **** on every new release that gains a bit of media hype.

Janszoon 01-07-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merrycaaant (Post 1272199)
no, I am pretty positive there are ulterior motives. Perhaps as a way of looking down at such music to favour the more obscure.

:rolleyes:

So when you write in your journal that you prefer some album I've never heard of over Dark Side of the Moon, does that mean you have an ulterior motive of looking down on popular music to favor the more obscure?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merrycaaant (Post 1272199)
If you knew you didn't like that particular brand of music; why listen?
Surely it wasn't just to criticize something you already had pre-conceived notions about.

How would I know what it sounded like before I listened? In the case of both albums, I listened to them because they received such a positive response both here and elsewhere that I was curious about them. Turns out they didn't do it for me. It happens sometimes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merrycaaant (Post 1272199)
I don't particularly like metal, but I don't **** on every new release that gains a bit of media hype.

And? I do like hip hop and I don't shit on every new release that gains a bit of media hype. What's your point?

Surell 01-09-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merrycaaant (Post 1272156)
I think there's an active 'This album is bad because it contains mainstream crossover capability and is popular' brigade going about.

There is no crossover potential for Kanye, he is the epitome of mainstream Hip Hop, especially in this time for Hip Hop.


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