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Thinkofthechildren 06-17-2013 08:39 AM

Its another classic, just faced it folks.

YorkeDaddy 06-17-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove (Post 1333180)
You don't have to be a patronizing cock.

He doesn't have to be a moron when he's arguing against the album and state things that are literally factually incorrect.

Thinkofthechildren 06-17-2013 04:51 PM

I am God reminds me a lot of a song called Black God by SpaceGhostPurrp, whos also very industrial gritty sounding like this whole album. HMMMMMMMMMMMM. Im watching you Yeezy.

Eq McFly 06-17-2013 04:59 PM

its a concept project, not everyones gonna love it. The beats are grimier and the vocals are heavily processed, thats they way he intended it to be heard.

Phantom Limb 06-17-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1333325)
He doesn't have to be a moron when he's arguing against the album and state things that are literally factually incorrect.

It's not "factually incorrect", it's called subjectivity. If I was factually incorrect you'd have "facts" to prove me wrong. You don't. Also, name calling is immature.

Justthefacts 06-17-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1333551)
It's not "factually incorrect", it's called subjectivity. If I was factually incorrect you'd have "facts" to prove me wrong. You don't. Also, name calling is immature.

I got yo back Phantom. I apologize for the name calling, but he's still a cock.

Here4Muzik 06-17-2013 08:20 PM

It's odd...not really what I expected. Which is good. I just feel like his lyrics have not involved much since his last album. The beats were interesting, using some new techniques there. And bringing a lot of energy which is nice to hear from all of the pretend laid back **** on the radio now a days.

Not as good as his last album and it seems like a lazy effort actually with only 10 tracks and very short. Overall I give it a 3, I just feel like he could have done better.. This album to me was a statement that 'I cant put out whatever and you will still buy it'. Just would have liked to see more direction and more length.

Ninetales 06-17-2013 09:26 PM

I think ill end up loving it but am still on the fence for now. Ill probably be the only one, but i probably wouldve liked it to be more pompous and arrogant. Not sure why but i love the fact that hes self proclaiming himself as a god. Pretentious music is best music i say

Justthefacts 06-17-2013 10:13 PM

It's funny how John Lennon can go ahead and proclaim his band more famous than Jesus and everyone on a global scale burns his records and all that shit, yet when Kanye says he IS a God people just say "oh well it's just Kanye West, he's full of himself" and people still eat up his egotistical garbage. How the times have changed.

Engine 06-17-2013 10:14 PM

I've got no idea where these 5/5 ratings are coming from. The guy is playing around just to pass time and make some cash, it seems. It's clearly fun for him, though, which is cool. Almost all of the songs are boring as hell though.

Oddly, some of his best-ever raps are on this album but they are few and far between (never was a very good rapper, but he's obviously got some skill in that department). Almost all of the beats suck but there a few gems thrown in there and some surprisingly good moments pop up throughout the album.

This shit literally reminds me of old Ween tapes that were made by two kids getting drunk, huffing glue and playing with a tape recorder. This album sounds like West getting drunk and high on MDMA and playing with million dollar equipment.


Ninetales 06-17-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove (Post 1333621)
It's funny how John Lennon can go ahead and proclaim his band more famous than Jesus and everyone on a global scale burns his records and all that shit, yet when Kanye says he IS a God people just say "oh well it's just Kanye West, he's full of himself" and people still eat up his egotistical garbage. How the times have changed.

Liking his music isn't an admittance that he actually is god.

Janszoon 06-17-2013 10:31 PM

I'm not a fan of Kanye West at all, and never would have even given this a listen if not for the fact that Goofle recommended it in this thread, but after one spin through I have to say that I've enjoyed this more than any of his other releases. The idea of this as his "gritty" album or whatever is kind of funny since it still has that same sterile, hermetically-sealed production style as his other albums, but here it works for me though because it has a little more bite than previous releases. I like most of the music here quite a bit actually, I just wish he wasn't the one rapping over it. Or at the very least I wish he didn't put his voice so damn front-and-center in the mix. If I can eventually learn to ignore that, I could definitely see this album becoming a grower for me.

Justthefacts 06-17-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1333627)
Liking his music isn't an admittance that he actually is god.

I never said that, I'm saying he can honestly get away with it because he's Kanye fucking West. Sort of how South Park has every right to be as blasphemous and over the top as possible simply because it's South Park.

Antonio 06-17-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove (Post 1333621)
It's funny how John Lennon can go ahead and proclaim his band more famous than Jesus and everyone on a global scale burns his records and all that shit, yet when Kanye says he IS a God people just say "oh well it's just Kanye West, he's full of himself" and people still eat up his egotistical garbage. How the times have changed.

funny thing about today, the internet has made it possible to be unbelievably butthurt without having to leave your chair

case in point, this comments section here

it only gets more vulgar from there

Phantom Limb 06-17-2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove (Post 1333570)
I got yo back Phantom. I apologize for the name calling, but he's still a cock.

:beer:

RoxyRollah 06-18-2013 07:50 AM

It's musically assaulting me in the best way possible.... YAY!!

Thinkofthechildren 06-18-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove (Post 1333621)
It's funny how John Lennon can go ahead and proclaim his band more famous than Jesus and everyone on a global scale burns his records and all that shit, yet when Kanye says he IS a God people just say "oh well it's just Kanye West, he's full of himself" and people still eat up his egotistical garbage. How the times have changed.

Oh come on now. Its 2013, who cares.

Justthefacts 06-18-2013 09:45 AM

Love the Death Grips vibe.

TheBig3 06-18-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Groove (Post 1333621)
It's funny how John Lennon can go ahead and proclaim his band more famous than Jesus and everyone on a global scale burns his records and all that shit, yet when Kanye says he IS a God people just say "oh well it's just Kanye West, he's full of himself" and people still eat up his egotistical garbage. How the times have changed.

Yeah, but John Lennon sucks.

Goofle 06-18-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1333642)
I'm not a fan of Kanye West at all, and never would have even given this a listen if not for the fact that Goofle recommended it in this thread, but after one spin through I have to say that I've enjoyed this more than any of his other releases. The idea of this as his "gritty" album or whatever is kind of funny since it still has that same sterile, hermetically-sealed production style as his other albums, but here it works for me though because it has a little more bite than previous releases. I like most of the music here quite a bit actually, I just wish he wasn't the one rapping over it. Or at the very least I wish he didn't put his voice so damn front-and-center in the mix. If I can eventually learn to ignore that, I could definitely see this album becoming a grower for me.

Thanks man :)

And the only thing stopping me from giving it a 5* is some of his rapping.

Arya Stark 06-18-2013 12:00 PM

I haven't listened to the album in full, yet, only tidbits of it on Hit 97 and Power 105.1.
Honestly, though, I think it's really weird that everyone is trying to criticize Kanye for being egotistical.
Aside from the fact that he's known for being conceited, have any of you LISTENED to what else is out in the hip-hop scene right now?
It's ALL about having more money, more power, more ladies, more everything! You have to set that aspect aside and listen to the music, first.

I'm not a fan of Kanye as a person but his music has always hit the right note for me, so I'm excited to see what has leaked.

Cuthbert 06-18-2013 01:18 PM

There are loads of rappers who make Hip-Hop that isn't all about women, power and money though.

Justthefacts 06-18-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1333907)
There are loads of rappers who make Hip-Hop that isn't all about women, power and money though.

It's usually the underground hip hop artists that don't sing about that.

Goofle 06-18-2013 04:07 PM

Plenty of underground artists only talk about that stuff.

Arya Stark 06-18-2013 08:52 PM

I meant the **** that's popular in the scene. I'm saying that people are acting like he's the only one, when so many other rappers are doing that.
I feel like ya gotta set that aside and look at the music and listen to his lyrics, you can't judge it by the fact that he's talking too much about himself.

Alfred 06-18-2013 09:00 PM

Great album and a logical progression from MBDTF. Feels just as fresh as that album did, if a little bit more limited in scope and scale. 5 stars from me.

FaSho 06-19-2013 01:45 PM

I really do not think it has a 'death grips feel' at all. There are a couple tracks that sound similar to a couple death grips tracks but that doesn't mean yeezus sounds anything like the money store or no love deep web. I also don't understand people so adamantly declaring it isn't a 'dancey' album. As of right now Black Skinhead is my favorite song on the album and I think it's mixture of dark intensity and dancehall beats creates a new, interesting, and fun sound. My other favorite track would have to be Bound 2, but that's just because I'm a huge fan of his earlier work, and I didn't think we'd ever get to hear a kanye song like that again. Really do not care much for On Sight or I am a God, but I can see the latter growing on me. Overall I give it four stars, and I'll say on a good day it can beat out Long Live Asap for the best rap album of the year thus far.

djchameleon 06-19-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 1334311)
I really do not think it has a 'death grips feel' at all. There are a couple tracks that sound similar to a couple death grips tracks but that doesn't mean yeezus sounds anything like the money store or no love deep web. I also don't understand people so adamantly declaring it isn't a 'dancey' album. As of right now Black Skinhead is my favorite song on the album and I think it's mixture of dark intensity and dancehall beats creates a new, interesting, and fun sound. My other favorite track would have to be Bound 2, but that's just because I'm a huge fan of his earlier work, and I didn't think we'd ever get to hear a kanye song like that again. Really do not care much for On Sight or I am a God, but I can see the latter growing on me. Overall I give it four stars, and I'll say on a good day it can beat out Long Live Asap for the best rap album of the year thus far.

Finally, someone that loves Bound 2 as much as I do!

Goofle 06-19-2013 03:55 PM

It's a great song.

Justthefacts 06-19-2013 04:57 PM

Agreed. That soul sample is pretty nice.

YorkeDaddy 06-19-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by phantom limb (Post 1333551)
it's not "factually incorrect", it's called subjectivity. If i was factually incorrect you'd have "facts" to prove me wrong. You don't. Also, name calling is immature.

guiz i really enjoy kanye west's new post rock album with a touch of jazz and black metal and that's totally what it is because genre is subjective duh

Justthefacts 06-19-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1334370)
guiz i really enjoy kanye west's new post rock album with a touch of jazz and black metal and that's totally what it is because genre is subjective duh

That'd be an interesting record.

Engine 06-19-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy (Post 1334370)
guiz i really enjoy kanye west's new post rock album with a touch of jazz and black metal and that's totally what it is because genre is subjective duh

Keep digging your own grave, Daddy. Your additions to this thread are exponentially juvenile.

The new Deafheaven album is infinitely better than the new Kanye thing. You should check it out, hipguy.

Justthefacts 06-20-2013 01:08 AM

I made the assumption too quickly that this has a Death Grips vibe but really, the only song that really has it is the first track "On Sight". This whole album is truly a great follow up to MBTDF though, albeit a short album.

sidewinder 06-20-2013 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11 (Post 1333860)
And the only thing stopping me from giving it a 5* is some of his rapping.

His rapping is what keeps me from listening to more than 10 seconds of his stuff. I just cannot stand his delivery. His tone. To me he just sounds really awful. The cockiness doesn't help, but that's something I don't go for at all when it comes to rap, or most music really. I just shouldn't even be in this thread. I felt the need to investigate because I really don't understand what people see in this guy. Then again I could say that about a lot of music, as could everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1333907)
There are loads of rappers who make Hip-Hop that isn't all about women, power and money though.

There's another thing, I'm really not into this kind of rap. I don't want to hear about pussy and guns and money. It's pathetic.

Again, I shouldn't be here. I'll let myself out. :D

Arya Stark 06-21-2013 08:06 PM

Is everyone actually listening to this? I just finished most of the album, I have one song left, and this music is deep, SO deep. Two of them mention slavery, at least one mentions pregnancy, alimony, etc, and a lot more. This music is about something more. If people follow this album to mold their style the way they did in the past couple of years with Rick Ross, it could really change the face of rap. Music will be about something more than bitches and money.

One thing I had a hard time with scattered throughout the album was how some of the songs would suddenly pause and some random chorus from a song would come in, it was kind of weird. I think as the album goes on, it gets more "listenable"

Like did anyone actually buy the album and see the cover? This **** is supposed to be raw. If you think it's poppin or dancey, you are not listening. At all.

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Originally Posted by sidewinder (Post 1334698)
There's another thing, I'm really not into this kind of rap. I don't want to hear about pussy and guns and money. It's pathetic.

Again, I shouldn't be here. I'll let myself out. :D

Wait, you missed the point. He ISN'T singing all about money, guns, and women.

djchameleon 06-22-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 1334947)
If people follow this album to mold their style the way they did in the past couple of years with Rick Ross, it could really change the face of rap. Music will be about something more than bitches and money.

that would be nice and all but there will always be club type music about bitches and money. It's just easy to make and no one wants to be up in the club dancing to serious topics.

You might like J Cole's Born Sinner though. He brings up some serious stuff as well.

Arya Stark 06-23-2013 07:30 AM

I'm not saying club type music is a problem, just that the topics are all the same lately. And thanks, I'll listen to that!

14232949 06-24-2013 06:53 AM

some of you guys are letting your own terribly dumb opinions get in the way of the fact that this album is a very rare and very special piece of work.
It will define one of the greatest artists of our times legacy and will in years to come take its place as a rightful classic.
It's not often you hear an album 5 times in a day and it takes your breath away every time. Truly captivating and enthralling and if there are those of you who can't see that, why are you even on a forum which appreciates music as an art form.

Arya Stark 06-24-2013 07:47 AM

^ On top of that, like I said, it could end up changing rap as a whole right now.
There's nothing out like this right now.


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