The Official Oasis Thread

[WolfAtTheDoor]

I've never been a huge fan of Noel's Oasis ballads. His voice doesn't really do much for me. I recognise that he is the 'talented one' in Oasis, but regardless of Liam's lack of musical ability, he's got a great voice. That's why I'm looking forward to Liam's output more than Noel's - we know what to expect from Noel going solo, we've heard it multiple times before.

[scottsy]

The split must have finally been serious... there was no reuniting of the two feuding brothers...ah well, maybe it will inspire some actual good music...

[Mojo]

Originally Posted by WolfAtTheDoor

Is that really saying much? He's pedalled out one good song in my opinion, that being The Meaning of Soul. The moment Noel started sharing songwriting duties was the moment when Oasis died.

It's saying a little more than you're giving him credit for i feel. Both Andy Bell and Gem Archer were songwriters long before they joined Oasis, but of course your opinion on their output is up for debate. Meanwhile Liam had written one song, which was Little James and a definite contender for the biggest load of shit i've ever heard. Liam was nothing more than a singer at the stage, he couldn't play guitar at all and wasn't a songwriter by any stretch of the imagination while Gem and Andy were coming in fresh and at a time where Noel was ready to relinquish control somewhat, one had been writing songs since the late 80's/early 90's in Heavy Stereo and one or two bands before, and the other from a similar time in Ride and Hurricane #1.

At this point if Noel decides to open the songwriting up to the rest of the band then i would have expected to see far more songs penned by Andy and Gem appearing on these records while Liam either struggles or tries to find his feet.

As it happens i feel Liam penned the best song on Heathen Chemistry, which was a poor record. I of course mean Born on a Different Cloud and not Songbird which i really don't like but i was surprised to see it chart so well to be honest. Better Man was nothing amazing but it was just as good an effort as the offerings from the rest of the band on that record.

I think Liam did really well with I'm Outta Time as well and is definitely showing he is capable of writing some good tunes, even if he is still a little inconsistent. I mean, i like Soldier On as well but Ain't Got Nothin' was piss.

Andy Bell penned the best two songs on Don't Believe The Truth i think and Liams werent fantastic but really i would have expected Andy and Gem to have been consistently out-writing Liam and they simply werent.

[thomasracer56]

i like wonderwall and most of the songs from dig out your soul album.

[James]

Anyone going to be checking out this "Beady Eye" project? I sure wont be.

[Mojo]

Eventually yeah, cause I like Oasis. However I haven't bothered myself yet and I'm in no hurry. I'd much rather know what Noel is going to get up to on his own.

Also don't forget that Liam, alongwith penning a few good tracks himself over the last few years, has two experienced songwriters with him. It's not like it's all on his shoulders. If Noel had walked out ten years ago, the band would have had to dissolve. There would have been no other way.

[nirvana89]

anyone here hear beady eye song, its liam's new group. sounds just anyother beatle rip from oasis lol

[Musikwala]

I love Oasis! Too bad they split up.

Whatever
Live Forever
Slide Away
Married With Children
Don't Look Back In Anger
Hey Now/Some Might Say
Morning Glory
Champagne Supernova
D'you Know What I Mean?
Stand By Me
Don't Go Away
Go Let It Out
Sunday Morning Call
Who Feels Love?
Gas Panic
Little By Little
The Importance Of Being Idle
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel
The Turning
Shock Of The Lightning
Falling Down

So many great songs!

Little By Little, Sunday Morning Call, Live Forever, Some Might Say and Champagne Supernova probably make up my Top 5 from the above list.

[Screen13]

Beady eye can go either way.

To me, what held Oasis together through the 2Ks was Noel, not just for his songwriting, but his very presence giving it that bit of a fatherly figure as he let the others contribute. As Andy and Gem come from Creation history (Ride and Hurricane #1 for Andy and Heavy Stereo for Gem), I could imagine it being good bonding as the label faded away in 1999 and that the team up might have sparked some kind of Post-Brit-Pop "We have to make this the best shot we can" feeling through Heathen Chemistry and the rest.

Now with Noel out of the picture, I have a feeling that either Beady Eye will be a band with some good songs but no focus (Noel giving Oasis some kind of focus) or that things will be moving strong as it just well may be the final chance for all involved, almost like a Do or Die situation music career-wise.

Noel may be a fine songwriter, but he's more of a great Father Figure and Team Player as I'm convinced that most of his more edgy moments were sparked with Liam being in the picture, so a solo Noel project may wind up being all too under-achieving. While "Don't Look Back In Anger" showed his strengths many time over, a major fumble like "Magic Pie" certainly hinted at most of his weaknesses especially that of not possessing that edgy voice most of his songs needed even at the weakest of times (Liam singing the same words would have been a decent if not classic listen). I can expect a something on the line of Paul Weller's Wild Wood, but sadly to my ears Noel's voice is not that commanding after a song or two enough to bring in new listeners.

I expect a reunion if Beady Eye does not get it's happening going soon.

[Dotoar]

Gotta tip in on this one.

I more or less worshipped Oasis during junior high and I hated them (at least I pretended to) during senior high and over the years ever since I've grown accustomed to the notion of valuing the music on its own terms and my current verdict on this band is: They're okay. (Although teen nostalgia obviously may cause a certain bias. Get me a moped!).

There are two main issues about Oasis that really grates me. First of all, Noel is indeed a competent songwriter but a very lousy arranger. Yep, at least half of their output is simply overlong, with a single hook repeated in absurdum. Not to mention that every next song is taken and played in the same mid-tempo manner and that his playing skills rarely let him stretch beyond the same old blues-pop-clichés in his guitar lines.

That in turn is emphasized in the general production approach which just plainly sucks, and it's especially evident on "Be here now" (well, both of these issues are). I've read somewhere that it was with Oasis (or rather, their producer Owen Morris) the whole 'loudness war' began, with that brick wall sound picture that leaves no room whatsoever for the music to breath. Beginning with their very first album, distorted guitars screams at you constantly over the booming drums and if some of the 90's most brilliant hooks and melodies hadn't been shining through it would truly be a painful chore sitting through an entire Oasis album.

Having said that, I still think they are a worthy listen, even disregarding their cultural importance as britpop exponents. My favourite albums are the first two, followed by the two last ones. Talk about bookmarking your career!

I mean, is it possible for any human being to have lived through the 90's and not like songs like these?