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Old 04-09-2008, 04:29 PM   #191 (permalink)
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They listen to watered down, plastic garbage, they don't like the music they like the image, they like how it makes them appear. Pop musicians (for the most part, especialy contemporary pop musicians) are not selling music that they invested passion and expression into, they have catchy little jingles.

The media tells these people what music to listen to, society tells these people what to listen to, it's the only thing they are exposed to. I don't listen to music to appear as something, to fit an image or to conform (not even to conform with the anti-conformists), the media doesn't tell me what to listen to.


Now lets have a look at your top 10 favourite bands and see what you are doing to further the cause of independent music away from these big bad evil corporations...

1. Oomph! - As it's been stated EMI & Sony
2. Metallica - Sony
3. Godsmack - UMG
4. Static- X - Warners
5. Rammstein - UMG
6. Strapping Young Lad - Century (Virgin / EMI)
7. Rob Zombie/White Zombie - Geffen
8. Coal Chamber - Warners
9. Die Krupps - Warners
10.Pantera - Warners


Yeah , way to stick it to the man.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:42 PM   #192 (permalink)
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anyone who writes of top40 pop as garbage should try writing a top40 pop tune. it takes ridiculous skill to suck that much without making your head implode.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:52 PM   #193 (permalink)
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That it's plastic garbage is your worthless opinion; that they like it because of how it makes them appear is a baseless accusation rooted in very little genuine reality at all.
It's not a baseless opinion it's reallity, open your eyes and look at the world (Do you live in the US?) Watch some TV it's pretty obvious.

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THEY'RE NOT DEDICATED MUSIC FANS! What part of that do you NOT understand? Most people listen to music to fit a certain mood, situation or occasion. They have no interest in music beyond that.
And that's why the music SUCKS!

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Get a blinkin' clue. Since they have no interest in music beyond that...

...Your tastes are no better than anybody else's.
I actually DO have an interest in music beyond all of that BS which would on some level make my tastes, yes, better.

I mean, are my little doodles I draw in school just as good as Van Gough even though he invested passion and interest into his art (alot more that I do into mine)?

If so then why do his painting sell for millions but I couldn't pay someone to take mine? Because that's what art is for, passion and expression and pop music defecates on that principal.

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Now lets have a look at your top 10 favourite bands and see what you are doing to further the cause of independent music away from these big bad evil corporations...

1. Oomph! - As it's been stated EMI & Sony
2. Metallica - Sony
3. Godsmack - UMG
4. Static- X - Warners
5. Rammstein - UMG
6. Strapping Young Lad - Century (Virgin / EMI)
7. Rob Zombie/White Zombie - Geffen
8. Coal Chamber - Warners
9. Die Krupps - Warners
10.Pantera - Warners


Yeah , way to stick it to the man.
And still you refuse to read my posts. I've said this countless times, there is a difference between being recognised and being used as a watered down puppet to sell to a bunch of sheep. None of those bands are mainstream corporate giants, Metallica is a highly revered metal band which is different, but none of those bands are pandering to a cultural meme or image or creating lack luster music for the purpose of selling as much as possible.
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:08 PM   #194 (permalink)
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You really don't get it do you.

These record companies have marketing strategies that all end up with the same thing , sales.
If they want to market a Rob Zombie or a Godsmack album to someone like you of course they won't do it the same way as a pop act , they push it in other ways so that make you , the gullible anti mainstream metal kid thinks 'wow these guys rock , they're not like all that pop sh*t that they push on me , i'll buy that instead'
Seriously kid , there are a whole bunch of kids like you around who think that exact same way , and thats how those record companies make profits from that, in the exact same way they would from some little kid watching a Britney video on MTV.
Teenage rebellion has always been one of the biggest money spinners around.
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I actually DO have an interest in music beyond all of that BS which would on some level make my tastes, yes, better.
and herein lies your fault.

get over yourself.
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You really don't get it do you.
No you apperently don't get it.

YOU...DON'T...KNOW...ME

I have NEVER liked a band on the idea of them being anti-conformist, all of the music I listen to I listen to because I genuinely enjoy thier music, and not ONCE did I find any of those bands on TV or or some mainstream facet, I found the bands I listen to with personal research, my dad's enormous CD collection, occasionally a friend will share a band he likes with me that I find to like myself.

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and herein lies your fault.

get over yourself.
That wasn't a groundless declaration, it was in response to the notion that people who listen to mainstream music aren't tremendously interested in music, which is the REASON my taste in music is 'better'; because I actually do care, quite a lot.
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Then how come none of them are independent artists?
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No you apperently don't get it.

YOU...DON'T...KNOW...ME

I have NEVER liked a band on the idea of them being anti-conformist, all of the music I listen to I listen to because I genuinely enjoy thier music, and not ONCE did I find any of those bands on TV or or some mainstream facet, I found the bands I listen to with personal research, my dad's enormous CD collection, occasionally a friend will share a band he likes with me that I find to like myself.
My god you were just going on about hating pop because its corporate and how your favorite band was anti-corporate and you've made a big deal about it.
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:38 PM   #199 (permalink)
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That wasn't a groundless declaration, it was in response to the notion that people who listen to mainstream music aren't tremendously interested in music, which is the REASON my taste in music is 'better'; because I actually do care, quite a lot.
no kid, your taste is your own. period. it's not better, or more righteous, or anything except your own. same as someone who thinks fergie or akon is great, it's their taste. it's not wrong, it's not worse, it's just different.

it's a very safe bet that the LARGE majority of mainstream music fans really don't care about the music so long as they can sing along to it. you want to think the music you listen to isn't corporate or contrived because it's not on the radio well, CQ and UH are providing ample examples that it's not the case. but for most people pop music is like a background soundtrack for their everyday lives. some people like to let it happen, others like to grab the wheel and chose their own path. neither is better than the other.

it's not like metallica and pantera are bad bands, but when you can find their stuff at absolutely any record store you're not going to convince anyone that it's not mainstream.

just accept that you like mall metal.
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My god you were just going on about hating pop because its corporate and how your favorite band was anti-corporate and you've made a big deal about it.
I didn't say they were anti-corporate I said they weren't corporate. They aren't sell-outs and they do actually care about thier music not just about selling.
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